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Re: Belt Drive

Our team has successfully used belts in a variety of applications, including three CIMS on a climber, and 1 CIM on a swerve drive. We used HTD 5mm pitch belts from SDP/SI, but I think McMaster might sell them now. You can save a lot of money making your own pulleys if you have a lot of them, and for low torque applications (like our shooter this year), they can even be 3d printed.

It is useful to have a method of tensioning, even if it is as simple as adding spacers beneath a gearbox. Also, be sure to choose a belt length that is actually made, so don't use some weird number like 73 teeth. For center to center distances, you can use Inventor, but they don't have the HTD belt profile in the design accelerator files. I have used SDP/SI for two pulley setups, and Gates Design IQ (free download) for setups with more than 2 pulleys.
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Re: Belt Drive

This thread have some useful information. Maybe teams that used timing belt drive this year can add some more information on the OP's google doc?
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Re: Belt Drive

The Andy Mark KOP drive base for 2013 used belts. Take a look at the list of components and the CAD.

http://www.andymark.com/AM-KOP-2013-s/451.htm

We used the base and the kitbot on steroids tips and we had a excellent drive base. I like how the belts were center to center distance and the belts were self centering. The Andy Mark folks did a outstanding job designing the KOP drive base.
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Re: Belt Drive

This is really helpful for developing belt drive: http://www.maxtorque.com/calctool/ce...nterstartx.asp

As long as you know the ratio you want and the distance between wheels, it'll tell you all the possible options. As long as the number is with .01" of your goal, you'll be fine (though it's better to be .01 under than .01 over). For a for-sure fit effect, couple this with a tensioning system, and you'll get a belt drive that'll never fail.
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This is really helpful for developing belt drive: http://www.maxtorque.com/calctool/ce...nterstartx.asp

As long as you know the ratio you want and the distance between wheels, it'll tell you all the possible options. As long as the number is with .01" of your goal, you'll be fine (though it's better to be .01 under than .01 over). For a for-sure fit effect, couple this with a tensioning system, and you'll get a belt drive that'll never fail.
I prefer the gates calculator as ti gives you more precision and is actually made by gates: http://first.gatesprograms.com/resources

For drive systems there are two ways of going: c-c and tensioning. Tensioning will give you perfect tension. On the other hand c-c can be a lot easier, as you don't have to make bearing blocks etc. If you do c-c you want to add a couple thou to the c-c to artificially tension the belts. Based on the length of the run somewhere between .003 and .008 thou extra seem adequate.
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I prefer the gates calculator as ti gives you more precision and is actually made by gates: http://first.gatesprograms.com/resources

For drive systems there are two ways of going: c-c and tensioning. Tensioning will give you perfect tension. On the other hand c-c can be a lot easier, as you don't have to make bearing blocks etc. If you do c-c you want to add a couple thou to the c-c to artificially tension the belts. Based on the length of the run somewhere between .003 and .008 thou extra seem adequate.
Am I not using that calculator correctly, or are you only allowed to use whole numbers as the C-C distance?

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Am I not using that calculator correctly, or are you only allowed to use whole numbers as the C-C distance?
Looks like it doesn't work for fractional C-C distances. I don't use the belt length calculator anyways, as I prefer to calculate C-C based on the pulleys and belt I want to use(Center Distance calculator). The gt2 belts are metric anyways so it is probably better to use the center distance calculator and then plug the metric center distance into CAD.
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Re: Belt Drive

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Am I not using that calculator correctly, or are you only allowed to use whole numbers as the C-C distance?
We use a program developed by the Gates belt company called Design IQ. It will calculate belt length for any C-C distance or vice versa.

A little more info in this post:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...46&postcount=2
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