2014 Game

[AllieS4246]

I'd like to start seeing mixes of past games. Combine components of 2 games and fuze them. For example, blend Lunacy and Over Drive. The robots will race in circles and while racing try to score points in opponents trailers. It would be a way to look at what worked in the past and blending. Now, would my mechanical team be happy, no, but it would be an interesting concept.

[AllieS4246]

Originally Posted by tilky

you are probably correct. one of the members on my team said last year during the regional that next year's theme will be frisbee (which it was), and said that next years will be something related to golf/hockey

I believe that golf would be almost more likely than Hockey, but I'd say both are good guesses. The sport games are going over so well.

[Robert Cawthon]

Originally Posted by R2D2DOC

Not sure anything from a rodeo would apply. . . .

How about barrel racing? With the minibot?

[RKIyer]

what about a rescue game? that seems like a good idea

[Jay Burnett]

Originally Posted by Orion.DeYoe

So, the popular suggestion seems to be hockey. I really like this idea. It would be unlike anything FIRST has implemented before. Hopefully it would involve actually hitting a puck around the field (like real hockey), as opposed to picking them up and depositing them in a goal. I wouldn't have a problem with them bringing back some sort of very slick surface as long as the only purpose it serves is to allow the pucks to slide and not to impede robot movement. Look at professional hockey, the players have no problem moving around the field. In fact they move around a lot faster on ice than most people do off the ice. FIRST needs to allow us to solve the problem of maneuverability on the field with different types of wheels and materials making contact with the floor (not make us use those dumb hard plastic wheels). Oh, and don’t even think about making me put skates or skis on my robot.

I think hockey would be a fun game to design for,(receiving the puck and shooting it out again) and it would also be very fun to watch. Because i know the unspeakable year 2009 has scarred many of you for life with the regolith feilds, hkey could be played without changing the floor material by adding rollers onto the bottom of the pucks. If the game is played like real hokey, there would be lots of contact and fighting for control of the puck, so defending the opposing alliance's robot away from the puck would be a valuable skill. It's also something that the BLTs and rookies could focus on and still be a valuable alliance partner. That said, the veterans and really good rookies (hopefully us this season) would focus on puck handling and scoring.

To keep play going after a score, one robot on the alliance that just got scored on would load a puck from the human player and then play would resume. The rules would be set so that members of the scoring alliance must be in their zone within 5 seconds of a goal happening, and can return to the other side after the puck is brought into the field of play.

Autonomous mode could be each robot shooting a preloaded puck into their goal. Robots would be lined up across from each other like this ~_~_~_. The end game is a little difficult, i can't come up with anything right now..... maybee the end game would be dropped because scoring would take such a long time with any passable defence.

That's my opinion, I hope the guys on the GDC read cd and pick this one up

[AllieS4246]

Originally Posted by Jay Burnett

I think hockey would be a fun game to design for,(receiving the puck and shooting it out again) and it would also be very fun to watch. Because i know the unspeakable year 2009 has scarred many of you for life with the regolith feilds, hkey could be played without changing the floor material by adding rollers onto the bottom of the pucks. If the game is played like real hokey, there would be lots of contact and fighting for control of the puck, so defending the opposing alliance's robot away from the puck would be a valuable skill. It's also something that the BLTs and rookies could focus on and still be a valuable alliance partner. That said, the veterans and really good rookies (hopefully us this season) would focus on puck handling and scoring.

To keep play going after a score, one robot on the alliance that just got scored on would load a puck from the human player and then play would resume. The rules would be set so that members of the scoring alliance must be in their zone within 5 seconds of a goal happening, and can return to the other side after the puck is brought into the field of play.

Autonomous mode could be each robot shooting a preloaded puck into their goal. Robots would be lined up across from each other like this ~_~_~_. The end game is a little difficult, i can't come up with anything right now..... maybee the end game would be dropped because scoring would take such a long time with any passable defence.

That's my opinion, I hope the guys on the GDC read cd and pick this one up

I am a huge hockey fan (I love my St. Louis Blues!) and would love to see a hockey FRC game. Unfortunately, I don't think that it could be played like a real hockey game.

I think if it were hockey the regaloth would be a must. In hockey the ice is a major component on the game, and taking it out by using rollers wouldn't be much of a comparison.

Defense and checking is a huge variable in hockey, but being able to make a fight in FRC? that would be hard, when no one can get a 5 minute penalty or break a jaw. And everytime there is an incident will the refs stop the game? I doubt it.

Also, with the standard format of a 2 and 1/2 ish minute long game, it would be hard for much scoring to really occur using only one puck.

As much as I wish real hockey could be played, I just don't think the current situation is a very good fit. Now, if they played it Rebound Rumble style, this would be a great game.

[saikiranra]

Unless the pucks are Frisbee sized, I doubt we will be playing a hockey game next year. The GDC wants the games to kind of be self-explanatory and easy to understand to the public. Although hockey is an easy to understand and fun to watch sport in real life, I doubt that it would translate well to robots.

[Caleb Sykes]

I think that some little kids games could be fun:
Hide and seek
Tag
Red light, green light
Freeze tag


I just have fun trying to imagine these.

[bbradf44]

What about Lazar Tag? With some kind of twist maybe for an end game or autonomous period

[mdituri]

Originally Posted by inkling16

Red light, green light

hysterical - I don't want to be on the other end of the field getting tackled by the robots though....

What about a version of simon says...autonomous would be crazy. a specific set of lights go and the robot has to take a certain position, move an arm, etc.

My favorite idea for a game:
Two separate sides, autonomous I haven't figured out, but during teleop a big black curtain comes up between the two sides of the field; your alliance has to stack boxes really tall on your own side; then, during the last 30 seconds the curtains come down and balls are put onto the field by your human player through some form of shoot that passively puts them on the field. your robot collects them and has to throw them at the opponents stacks of boxes, your robot cannot reach over to the other side of the field; also some other thing to do during the last 30 seconds so a good alliance will have someone else doing the third thing such as hanging on a high bar, flipping over, whatever. Two robots doing something with the third throwing balls to eliminate the other alliances score. There is not going to be a lot of robot robot hard smashing contact, but it would be kind-of cool to have the element of surprise once the curtain falls. Your team gets points for how high the boxes are stacked maybe exponentially or doubled. Depends upon the number of boxes available. Stacked boxes are a minimum of one box on top of another, hence stacked.

Oh yeah, during the last 5 seconds you can shoot the firehose at the other boxes...hence the water game.

[Johnnybukkel]

What about a Capture the Flag style of game? I'm not sure how it could be executed but it's an idea at least.

[billylo]

Originally Posted by inkling16

I think that some little kids games could be fun:
Hide and seek
Tag
Red light, green light
Freeze tag


I just have fun trying to imagine these.

^^^ THIS is brilliant. GDC please consider.

1. Easy to understand for the crowd
2. Requires good strategies
3. Exciting and fast-paced
4. Short duration

Love it.

[saikiranra]

Originally Posted by billylo

^^^ THIS is brilliant. GDC please consider.

1. Easy to understand for the crowd
2. Requires good strategies
3. Exciting and fast-paced
4. Short duration

Love it.

But the problem is that it requires little to no innovation. A good driver with a good, fast drive train is literally the solution to all these games. Sure more teams will take up mechanum or swerve drive, but it squashes a creative spirit.

That being said, tag would be fun to play.

[billylo]

With some twists for auton and endgame, it can be doable. And some field elements to make teleop not straightforward.

[nicholsjj]

Hockey would be fun.
Reuse the frisbees from this year as the puck.
Reuse the regolith field type from 2009.
Add in the bumps from 2010 as the centerline and zone lines.
Have a "lift the cup" type end game where alliances have to lift each other up like in 2007.
Each alliance can have a "goalie" robot that can shoot frisbees from a feeding slot.