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Re: FRC "Survival Scenario" Exercise
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EDIT: Just realized the max is 30 items! Byebye spirit items! Last edited by BigJ : 13-08-2013 at 15:37. |
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Re: FRC "Survival Scenario" Exercise
NOTE: This is my personal list, and most definitely does not represent all or even most of the members of Team 20.
1) Initial registration fee (1 regional OR 2 districts) 2) Registration Fee for additional regional OR district championship 3) A mentor of your choice with electrical engineering expertise 4) A mentor of your choice with programming expertise 5) Two Laptops with OS + Internet access 6) A mentor of your choice with expertise in all non-engineering matters 7) A mentor of your choice with mechanical engineering expertise 8) Travel expenses (hotel, transportation, food) for two competition events 9) $500 Visa Debit Card 10) Basic hand tools + Measurement tools + Electrical tools (nothing powered) 11) Basic power tools (Cordless drill + bit set, Dremel, etc.) 12) $500 voucher for AndyMark 13) An active teacher and supportive school of your choice (1) 14) Team Uniforms (sufficient quantity for all team members) 15) A mentor of your choice with FRC strategic design expertise 16) Full Size Practice Area (Space, Carpet, Driver Stations - No Game Elements) 17) $500 worth of raw material (aluminum, steel, polycarb) 18) Drill press & bit set + Band saw 19) Belt sander + grinder + arbor press 20) A mentor of your choice with CAD/Inventor expertise 21) $500 voucher for VEX/VEX Pro 22) Team Meeting Area (2) 23) Lathe & tooling 24) Mill & tooling 25) Six additional batteries and chargers 26) Team Button Give Aways (sufficient quantity for all events) 27) $500 voucher for McMaster-Carr 28) Pit Set Up of your choice + Robot Cart 29) Laser OR water jet cutter 30) Sheet metal bending capabilities 31) 3 Axis CNC & tooling 32) $500 voucher for Lowe’s or Home Depot 33) Unique Team Give Away (sufficient quantity for all events) 34) Welding capabilities My basic goal was to be a competitive, basic level FRC team. The kind that could get into eliminations at any FRC regional or district event. I also based the list off of myself (i.e. Programming and Electrical mentors are high up on the list because those are my blind spots.) I think that any team can build a competitive robot with some intelligence and my top 11 items. (You can substitute those mentors with mentors that suit your blind spots.) I have a non-engineering mentor in there not as much for award submissions, spirit, imagery, etc., but more for the financial, non-engineering mentorship aspects to be taken care of. After that it becomes things I'd like to have in order of preference. The most interesting part was discovering what I found to be the least important. The bottom four are guaranteed to not be in my list of items this team could have. 31) 3 Axis CNC & tooling- Do you really need CNC to succeed? 32) $500 voucher for Lowe’s or Home Depot- I already have raw materials and vouchers for andymark/vexpro/McMaster, do I need Home Depot items? 33) Unique Team Give Away (sufficient quantity for all events)- I already have team buttons, these are unnecessary. 34) Welding capabilities- This was the most interesting part to me, because my team welds their robots, but if I have the ability to work with sheet metal, I don't need this. And even without either, I can have a pretty good drivetrain with just the KOP drivetrain. I think I might bring this to our team's attention and see what comes of it. |
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Re: FRC "Survival Scenario" Exercise
Considering the laser or waterjet costs more than the entire rest of the list (even the combined salaries of the engineers listed), I would put that #1.
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Re: FRC "Survival Scenario" Exercise
Where's the choice for dedicated students? That would be top on my list. Then every mentor listed. Add in the registration fees and the rest of the stuff will get done. Dedicated students getting taught by passionate mentors is my personal definition of a successful team.
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Re: FRC "Survival Scenario" Exercise
I think the scenario would be a little clearer if you were to say that the team has tried every other company that could potentially sponsor them, and this is the only sponsor to say yes. If there is a possibility that other sponsors come in and give the team some more stuff, then people will be more inclined to pick stuff that is harder to get but not necessarily as important
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Re: FRC "Survival Scenario" Exercise
1 Initial registration fee (1 regional OR 2 districts)
2 Registration Fee for additional regional OR district championship 3 A mentor of your choice with CAD/Inventor expertise 4 Travel expenses (hotel, transportation, food) for two competition events 5 $500 Visa Debit Card 6 Lathe & tooling 7 Laser OR water jet cutter 8 Sheet metal bending capabilities 9 Full Size Practice Area (Space, Carpet, Driver Stations - No Game Elements) 10 $500 voucher for McMaster-Carr 11 $500 voucher for VEX/VEX Pro 12 $500 worth of raw material (aluminum, steel, polycarb) 13 $500 voucher for AndyMark 14 $500 voucher for Lowe’s or Home Depot 15 Team Meeting Area (2) 16 Mill & tooling 17 A mentor of your choice with FRC strategic design expertise 18 A mentor of your choice with programming expertise 19 A mentor of your choice with mechanical engineering expertise 20 A mentor of your choice with expertise in all non-engineering matters 21 A mentor of your choice with electrical engineering expertise 22 3 Axis CNC & tooling 23 Team Uniforms (sufficient quantity for all team members) 24 Pit Set Up of your choice + Robot Cart 25 Two Laptops with OS + Internet access 26 Six additional batteries and chargers 27 An active teacher and supportive school of your choice (1) 28 Basic hand tools + Measurement tools + Electrical tools (nothing powered) 29 Drill press & bit set + Band saw 30 Belt sander + grinder + arbor press 31 Basic power tools (Cordless drill + bit set, Dremel, etc.) 32 Welding capabilities 33 Team Button Give Aways (sufficient quantity for all events) 34 Unique Team Give Away (sufficient quantity for all events) This was picked on the basis of building the best robot and assumes you have an awesome group of students. It's possible to run a successful team with only one mentor, hard but possible. Since most of the robot is going to be laser cut sheet metal, CAD experience is the most important. Students can pick up the programming, electrical, and other stuff pretty well from all the resources that exist and getting help from other teams. You can buy, craigslist, dumpster dive, etc. for a lot of the small tools and items that you need. Once you have a lathe, laser cutter, and CNC break there isn't much you can't make. The full practice area would be extremely beneficial to making a competitive robot. Several really great teams meet in a garage and figure out a way to get it done, but having a meeting space would be preferred. A robot cart can just be a $10 furniture dolly and pit shelves while nice are not needed. I also feel like buttons in FRC are dying down a bit, they aren't nearly as "required" as I remember them being. Handwritten notes of encouragement would be better giveaways than pretty much anything you could buy anyway, so why waste the spot. I'm hoping I role at least a 5. If we get a 1 we would probably move to a plywood laser cut robot like 1899. |
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Re: FRC "Survival Scenario" Exercise
I'll play...
1 Initial registration fee (1 regional OR 2 districts) 2 Registration Fee for additional regional OR district championship 3 A mentor of your choice with expertise in all non-engineering matters 4 A mentor of your choice with mechanical engineering expertise 5 Basic hand tools + Measurement tools + Electrical tools (nothing powered) 6 Basic power tools (Cordless drill + bit set, Dremel, etc.) 7 An active teacher and supportive school of your choice (1) 8 A mentor of your choice with FRC strategic design expertise 9 Full Size Practice Area (Space, Carpet, Driver Stations - No Game Elements) 10 Team Meeting Area (2) 11 Six additional batteries and chargers 12 $500 voucher for VEX/VEX Pro 13 $500 voucher for AndyMark 14 $500 worth of raw material (aluminum, steel, polycarb) 15 A mentor of your choice with programming expertise 16 A mentor of your choice with electrical engineering expertise 17 Travel expenses (hotel, transportation, food) for two competition events 18 Lathe & tooling 19 Drill press & bit set + Band saw 20 $500 voucher for Lowe’s or Home Depot 21 $500 Visa Debit Card 22 Laser OR water jet cutter 23 A mentor of your choice with CAD/Inventor expertise 24 Team Uniforms (sufficient quantity for all team members) 25 Mill & tooling 26 $500 voucher for McMaster-Carr 27 Two Laptops with OS + Internet access 28 Belt sander + grinder + arbor press 29 3 Axis CNC & tooling 30 Sheet metal bending capabilities 31 Pit Set Up of your choice + Robot Cart 32 Team Button Give Aways (sufficient quantity for all events) 33 Unique Team Give Away (sufficient quantity for all events) 34 Welding capabilities I'm assuming that any tools come with knowledge of operation... My list is different due to the fact that you said I keep my students. Which means I retain the resources they bring in. I have the benefit of being in a relatively affluent area in which almost all of my students have ready access to a computer at home. It also means I can expect students to cover their travel cost (we currently do) Options 1-11 are assured, this means I've done my best to build a group that can provide the next couple key items (most notably recruiting mentors and raising the small amount of funds needed to build a simple effective robot). 12-20 are things that would be nice to have given to me but that I can ultimately get given 1-11 and a few months of work. 21-34 are things that would be nice to have but ultimately don't impact my ability to get things done. In fact, I'd be willing to say that given 1-15 on my list (and some dedicated students) I could say with relatively few doubts that we could put together a solid robot that would play in the afternoon at almost any regional and has a high chance of seeding high. |
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