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Re: Electrical team training

Electrical training v3.0!

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Last Christmas break one of our students made over an hour of video tutorial material, in hopes that someone could use it. Link: HERE
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Re: Electrical team training

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Last Christmas break one of our students made over an hour of video tutorial material, in hopes that someone could use it. Link: HERE
First off, you guys are awesome. It blows my mind that a bot so amazing was made in a garage. Second, this is a great resource! I couldn't really think of anything to go with the motor controller powerpoint (except maybe a demonstration using an arduino or something) and the linearity video will fit great. I am going to prepare a curriculum plan for training and some of your videos will definitely be included.
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How much higher is the Jaguar current than the Talon current?
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The IFI controllers can handle more current than Jags, and Talons fall right in the middle.
I thought the Talon was rated for 60A continuous current while the Jaguar and Victor are only rated for 40A continuous current.
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I thought the Talon was rated for 60A continuous current while the Jaguar and Victor are only rated for 40A continuous current.
Talons are rated for 60/100. Jags are rated for 40/92. Victors are rated for 60/150. My team knows from experience that Victors can happily handle 70 amps, while jags struggle beyond 50. I don't know from experience, but I have heard that Talons are also completely ok with 70 amps for as long as 15 seconds.
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Electrical training v3.0!
Great work! Thanks very much for sharing.
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Talons are rated for 60/100. Jags are rated for 40/92. Victors are rated for 60/150. My team knows from experience that Victors can happily handle 70 amps, while jags struggle beyond 50. I don't know from experience, but I have heard that Talons are also completely ok with 70 amps for as long as 15 seconds.
Our team has found out that victors are significantly more capable than the jaguar, as we could have 1 victor drive two minicim motors on a drive train without a problem (don't worry, it was a practice bot), but we broke a jaguar trying this, so I'd say that your slide was accurate.
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First off, you guys are awesome. It blows my mind that a bot so amazing was made in a garage. Second, this is a great resource! I couldn't really think of anything to go with the motor controller powerpoint (except maybe a demonstration using an arduino or something) and the linearity video will fit great. I am going to prepare a curriculum plan for training and some of your videos will definitely be included.
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Thanks! We hope the series can help!
I have added links to some of your videos at the end of some of the powerpoints. It will be a lot easier to show a 5 minute video than to try to collect all of our tools and show what they do.

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Our team has found out that victors are significantly more capable than the jaguar, as we could have 1 victor drive two minicim motors on a drive train without a problem (don't worry, it was a practice bot), but we broke a jaguar trying this, so I'd say that your slide was accurate.
Wow, nice. We have found that the 884s tend to be more stable at high draw than 888s, but that isn't to say the 888s aren't awesome at high draw. What team are you on, just out of curiousity?
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Commenting so I remember to go over this cause it looks helpful. thanks
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Re: Electrical team training

Minor point: A Spike isn't controlled by a PWM signal, though a PWM cable is typically used to connect a Spike to the DSC.

It would be good to point out the indicator lights on things that let you figure out if the electrical system is seeing signals at various points along the way, this is often the first-level diagnostic when things aren't working.
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Re: Electrical team training

Updated powerpoints:
-General spelling/formatting corrections
-Added links to some of 3476's awesome electrical videos
-Added some more sensor information
-Added the Activity powerpoints. Throw these in where you want them, using them is not necessary to the curriculum.

Electrical Training 1-2.zip
Electrical Training 3-4.zip
Electrical Training 5-6.zip
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Re: Electrical team training

Evan,
May I use the material you have put together? I too am planning to teach electrical fundamentals to our team members in October. I'd like to not re-invent the wheel if at all possible. After all, it looks like you put a lot of work into creating a quality product.

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Re: Electrical team training

Quick question before I go through every video and powerpoint. Can these resources teach even the most unqualified people (myself) electrical for FRC. If so that would be amazing cause im kinda the slow one who fails the rules test but at the end of season knows all the rules and how to do something better than the people who taught me.
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