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Apple Computer and Labview

Does any teams develop Labview software on Apple computers. If so how do you go about getting Labview onto there computers. Currently my teams school requires all students to have an apple laptop. This is great since everyone has a laptop. The only problem is getting Labview onto there computers currently requires use to put windows on there computer then install Labview. This process takes a very long time. Anyone have suggestions?
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

We used Labview and the driver station on a MacBook last year using Bootcamp. You can also use Parallels for Mac and run it in that virtual machine. Which is what I recommend.
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

does bootcamp or virtual machine cost anything? How long does it take to set up and is it easy to use?
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

Bootcamp is free. Parallels isn't. But it's pretty useful~.

And of course you have to pay for Windows..

Bootcamp is pretty straight forward to install and use.

But with parallels, you can install as many OSs a you want (or can fit) and you can use Windows at the same time as OS X. Which is pretty cool.
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

sounds good we will give those a try. Do you have any tips on how to get labview on computers faster? Right now we just use one disk and pass it around but it take a while
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

For multiple computers it'd be faster to copy the installation files to local disk (~ 5 min), then install from there.

The installation takes just as long, but the LV installation disk can be passed along as soon as the files are copied over, which is a whole lot faster than the actual installation process.
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

great idea i will keep that in mind
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

is there any way to us labview without Windows
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

The FRC version and license is only for Windows.
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

Since FIRST provides Windows licenses for the Driver Station Netbooks, it would be rather nice if they provided a licenced Windows VM with all the necessary software installed (Microsoft is a sponsor aren't they?)
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

Well, at $2,699 it's not likely to be feasible to simply purchase it for the team, but NI has offered LabVIEW for the Mac since 1986. Too bad they do not offer this OS as an option through FIRST.
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

As Mark stated, only the Windows version of LV supports the RT module. For a few years, RT support was available on the Mac as well, but the demand wasn't high enough to justify the test and release overhead.

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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

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As Mark stated, only the Windows version of LV supports the RT module. For a few years, RT support was available on the Mac as well, but the demand wasn't high enough to justify the test and release overhead.

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OK, so the native Mac version is not even compatible with FRC. Too bad. Love my Mac. Have to live with Parallels to get Windows.
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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

Compatible is not quite the word I'd use. LV VIs are portable across different platforms, but they may not compile or run. The mac no longer ships the utilities and libraries needed to target a cRIO or other RT device.

So yep. My mac spends a good percentage of its time in parallels too.

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Re: Apple Computer and Labview

it sounds like my team will need to keep using parallels. Any suggestions on a good way to get windows to students. buying a version of windows for everyone wanting to learn LabView on the team is not in are budget due to are software team growing. We are debating moving to java for this reason. We really do not want to though due to are great experiences with Labview
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