Custom wheel making

[safiq10]

Has any team here made custom wheels here. If so what was your process. How much did it cost? and did it work they well?

[sanddrag]

Originally Posted by safiq10

Has any team here made custom wheels here. If so what was your process. How much did it cost? and did it work they well?

Yes. CNC Milling. $1.69/lb. Yes.

[safiq10]

what was this wheel made out of and do you have a picture of it? Thank you for responding.

[sanddrag]

Originally Posted by safiq10

what was this wheel made out of and do you have a picture of it? Thank you for responding.

The best I have is this picture of our whole robot. The wheel was made out of 6061-T6 aluminum round bar. It took about 20 minutes each to machine on a vertical machining center. The majority of the time was cutting the groove for the tread and corner rounding the edges. I could probably cut down the cycle time now that I've learned a bit more about feedrates and material removal rates.

If you search the CD media section, there are several examples of custom made wheels.

Wheels can even be made on a manual mill and/or lathe if you don't have access to a CNC, and if you have enough patience and time.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by sanddrag

The best I have is this picture of our whole robot. The wheel was made out of 6061-T6 aluminum round bar. It took about 20 minutes each to machine on a vertical machining center. The majority of the time was cutting the groove for the tread and corner rounding the edges. I could probably cut down the cycle time now that I've learned a bit more about feedrates and material removal rates.

If you search the CD media section, there are several examples of custom made wheels.

Wheels can even be made on a manual mill and/or lathe if you don't have access to a CNC, and if you have enough patience and time.

Here's two better pictures.
http://i.imgur.com/btUmTzW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZUqlDUP.jpg

[DampRobot]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

Here's two better pictures.
http://i.imgur.com/btUmTzW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZUqlDUP.jpg

Dude. That is one gnarly gearbox. I love the ano, HSM pocketing, and the ratchet. Was it for a lock for a 30 point climb?

[saikiranra]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

Dude. That is one gnarly gearbox. I love the ano, HSM pocketing, and the ratchet. Was it for a lock for a 30 point climb?

Thank you!

Yes, the ratchet is attached to a spindle, which can be engaged by actuating a pancake piston. It can be used for a 30 pt climb, if anyone decides to actually design it.

[peirvine]

Yes. We had a friend at Stratasys 3D Print 2 different versions of them (see picture below). The white wheels were Gen1 and they were made from abs m30, we ran into the problem of hubs getting stripped of their hex shape, so we replaced them with the black ones which were made from Ultem (which were about twice as strong) and they seem to be working just fine. For us the wheels were free, but MSRP we have heard (from different people) that they range from about $150/wheel to about $300.

[Mk.32]

Originally Posted by peirvine

Yes. We had a friend at Stratasys 3D Print 2 different versions of them (see picture below). The white wheels were Gen1 and they were made from abs m30, we ran into the problem of hubs getting stripped of their hex shape, so we replaced them with the black ones which were made from Ultem (which were about twice as strong) and they seem to be working just fine. For us the wheels were free, but MSRP we have heard (from different people) that they range from about $150/wheel to about $300.

Wow... And I thought AM wheels were expensive. That seems like some really nice stuff. Any reason why the 3D printed one is better then say an regular Alum one (besides the fact it was free ).

[Aren Siekmeier]

Originally Posted by Mk.32

Wow... And I thought AM wheels were expensive. That seems like some really nice stuff. Any reason why the 3D printed one is better then say an regular Alum one (besides the fact it was free ).

We didn't have the CNC machine time and Stratasys can print oodles of these for machine tests and demos. We were looking for a one piece wheel that would have been expensive to purchase otherwise.

[cmrnpizzo14]

How did the cost break down for the 3D printed wheels? Was it mostly materials or simply having them 3D printed? Do you know if a team has their own 3D printer about how much it would cost to print each wheel?

[peirvine]

I believe that with our final set of wheels, the consumer grade couldn't handle the material or the size of the job. It would also take a VERY long time. The shop that we work out of has a 3D printer and even printing wheel spacers takes a good deal of time.

[AdamHeard]

We're a team that used to make custom wheels every season, and we likely won't ever again.

Just too many solid COTS options, unless you have every part of your robot perfect, it's really a wasted resource to make custom wheels.

Sure are cool though.

[Peter Matteson]

Below is a link to some pics showing the evolution of the design we used from 2007-2010. We stopped doing it when the AM performance wheels became cheap enough and available in the right configuration so that we had no real gain from making our own.

The raw material cost on these was less that $5/wheel but not having to worry about the resources to make them is worth paying for wheels to us.
This is the driven version. We also made a live axle version.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/31102
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/31104
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/31105

[Brandon Holley]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

We're a team that used to make custom wheels every season, and we likely won't ever again.

Just too many solid COTS options, unless you have every part of your robot perfect, it's really a wasted resource to make custom wheels.

Sure are cool though.

Cannot agree more with this entire post.

We made custom wheels for a long time, and when we started looking at COTS options and the time difference between implementing them- it was a no brainer to go COTS.

They make for a fun project, and there are a ton of cool things you can do with them in terms of making them (machining, molding, printing, etc). For us, the effort is just better spent in other places.

-Brando