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The other part of me thinks that FIRST is going to wait until they have started to finalilize things, in case something unexpected happens. |
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Everyone talking about Detroit has been saying how COBO Center and the attached arena would be inadequate for the championship... but has anyone considered they might be proposing Ford Field instead?
Not knowing the internal layout I'm not sure how they'd do the pits, but there is certainly more than enough room for all the fields and plenty seating for everyone. |
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The planned new Red Wings arena and "entertainment district" might be more viable. |
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We've got the Wisconsin Center, BMO Harris Bradley Center, US Cellular Arena, and Milwaukee Theater literally across the street from each other. I'll run through a possible pit breakdown: -Wisconsin Center: ~190k sq ft contiguous exhibit space, 37k sq ft ballroom, 14 meeting rooms: FRC Pits and Fields -BMO Harris Bradley Center: 18k seats: FLL Pits and Fields -US Cellular Arena: 10k seats: FTC Pits and Fields -Milwaukee Theater: 4k seats: Expanded Conferences Additionally, these buildings are 2 blocks from the Public Museum and Planetarium, 3 from the Public Library, River and Riverwalk, Waterstreet, the Pabst Theater (seats 1300) and Repertory Theater (Seats 700). Within a few blocks there is a DoubleTree, Hapton Inn & Suites, Fairfield Inn & Suites, Ramada, Hilton, and Hyatt. It's walking distance from Marquette University and MSOE. (This might be a bit of a stretch) |
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If you don't have at least 500,000 square feet of usable exhibition space, forget it and if you are planning for any growth you better have 750,000.
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If people dont mind not having an Arena but just a convention center, than Orlando would be the perfect option. The Orange County Convention Center is the largest convention center by square footage in America; and its in Orlando which has TONS of restaurants/hotels/amusement parks. Heck, Seaworld and Aquatica are less than 1/2 a mile away.
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Maybe this is off topic. But I find it rather interesting that arguments against the district system often say, "But you're just in a gym with bleacher seats." Yet temporary bleacher seating in a convention hall is what is being proposed for several of these potential CMP venues. Is it just me, or is there a disconnect there?
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The biggest thing against most of these venues is FIRST requires a lot of exhibition floor space just to maintain its current size, not even mentioning the restricted potential for growth. St Louis is really nice and close together, but the large number of meeting rooms available in America's Center are almost of no use to the purpose of progressively expanding the scope of championship to support the corresponding expansion of team and event counts at all levels. |
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Personally, St. Louis has gotten better but I'd prefer somewhere that I would feel safer walking around outside. Preferably without the constant semi-rational fear of tornadoes, but I can accept if that is an inevitability. |
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If the Championship event moves to Indianapolis, there will be some debate as to whether IRI is the premiere Indiana Robotics event those years.
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I am only familiar with St. louis As we went there 2012 but based on all the stories and infromation presented to me about Atlanta, i would love too see it there, Indianapols would also be a nice spot to host the championship i belive.
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I'm familiar with both Atlanta and St. Louis, having competed and volunteered at both places I've formed my own personal opinions on those two.
Atlanta does have a large airport easy to get to, with lots of flights in/out. St. Louis airport is smaller with fewer flights in/out, but, is much cheaper to fly to than Atlanta, and I'm on the east coast. Flight time is pretty much the same. St. Louis is also more a "central" location for all teams. Atlanta is far more expensive for hotels, food, and even air fare compared to St. Louis. Although prices have been going up steadily in St. Louis. In Atlanta, I don't like the walk between the convention center Pits and the Dome for competition. It takes a good 10 minutes to walk it. If you have a short window between matches you can't get back to the pits for repairs, or even to send a runner for supplies. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but, aren't they planning on tearing down the existing Georgia Dome? In St Louis, the walk between the convention center pit area and the dome for competition was under 5 minutes. Plenty of time to send a runner or get back & forth in a short window. When it comes to safety out on the street both Atlanta and St. Louis have their issues. Pretty much any city does. Use common sense, stay in groups. And btw, both cities have the local police "clean out" the vagrants prior to our arrival. Try experiencing each those cities when that doesn't happen, and it's VERY different. I can't compare the other suggested event venues as I've not been to any of them to compare, but, if it was my choice, I'd choose St. Louis, hands down. Last edited by Phalanx : 11-09-2013 at 12:22. |
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Am I the only one who hasn't ever had any issues with downtown St. Louis? Walked around the dome and a few blocks from it multiple times both early in the morning & well late into the night to get back to my car and didn't have any problems with people. That's not to say there aren't some shady looking people hanging out sometimes but they've never bothered me. I think you'll have that in every major city though, even Indianapolis or Louisville.
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