NASA Grant 2014

[Chris_Elston]

Originally Posted by C_Ferret_4212

So the first question of the grant asks about school information, including the name of the principal, contact info, etc. 4-H is based in the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign here in Illinois, so should we try to put in the U of I's information in this section? Or put in the information of one of our local high-schools? Leave it blank? What do you guys think?

In the State of Indiana, Purdue University is the "grantee" for our 4-H Club. So I put the address to our 4-H Extension Office. Which is also our official mailing address.

The principle of our "school", is our Extension Office Director.

I never put any reference to our High School.

If someone wants to see our application form from years past, send me a PM with your email address, and I will email you our old application forms.

[C_Ferret_4212]

Thanks, Chris, I think that answers my question. I'll have to talk to our extension office some more about it.

On a different note, I was wondering, what is the percent success rate in applying for a NASA grant? Are there very many teams out there who've applied for a grant (and fulfilled all the requirements to the best of their knowledge) and not gotten it? Is it a pretty sure thing that we will get it if we follow all the rules and create a well-written grant?

[sanddrag]

Originally Posted by C_Ferret_4212

Is it a pretty sure thing that we will get it if we follow all the rules and create a well-written grant?

In my experience, no. It is never a certain thing.

[JB987]

Originally Posted by sanddrag

In my experience, no. It is never a certain thing.

We have put together many submissions (well written ones that we have shared with many other teams that actually then wound up getting NASA grants) these past few years without any success... Good luck to the rest of you out there

[shakerMom]

I have another question about NASA grants. I submitted our application late last night.The application is still up, and this morning I thought of something I would like to add to the last question. Is there any harm in re-submitting, does anyone know?

[waialua359]

Too late for us.
Hoping for no government shutdown....*crosses fingers*

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by waialua359

Too late for us.
Hoping for no government shutdown....*crosses fingers*

Same boat*--I didn't see they'd moved the shutoff up to 2:00 Pacific. We'll cross our fingers that the folks in Washington get their act together and soon.

*Boat not included.

[M. Lillis]

So if they cannot process new applications, how does the review panel review already submitted apps? Unless, are they still getting paid to work and just can't handle new items?

[Cory]

Originally Posted by M. Lillis

So if they cannot process new applications, how does the review panel review already submitted apps? Unless, are they still getting paid to work and just can't handle new items?

They cannot review any applications until the government returns from any potential shutdown.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by M. Lillis

So if they cannot process new applications, how does the review panel review already submitted apps? Unless, are they still getting paid to work and just can't handle new items?

IIRC, they would not be paid.

[Pault]

And it has become a reality. Its October 1st, no bill has been passed, and government agencies have been ordered to implement their shutdown plans.

Sigh...

[Tristan Lall]

Originally Posted by Billfred

The form is set to go offline "on September, 30th 2013 at 0:00:00 PST".

Originally Posted by Billfred

Same boat*--I didn't see they'd moved the shutoff up to 2:00 Pacific.

"September, 30th 2013 at 0:00:00 PST" = September 30, 2013 at 01:00:00 PDT
"September, 30th 2013 at 14:00:00 PST" = September 30, 2013 at 15:00:00 PDT

PST was probably an error—PDT is in effect in the United States, so there's no reason to use PST. (PT should be specified instead, when you want the current time in the Pacific time zone, irrespective of whether standard or daylight time is in effect.)

Also, 00:00:00 is midnight at the start of the day, 24:00:00 is midnight at the end of the day. So (leaving aside the time zone issue) the original instruction seemed to imply that September 30 was too late. Hopefully nobody was planning to have until the end of the day September 30, and got tripped up by this.

Does anyone know at what time submissions were actually put on ice for the duration of the shutdown?

[Chris Fultz]

The NASA website said 23:59:59 on the 30th (Monday).

[Cory]

Originally Posted by C_Ferret_4212

Thanks, Chris, I think that answers my question. I'll have to talk to our extension office some more about it.

On a different note, I was wondering, what is the percent success rate in applying for a NASA grant? Are there very many teams out there who've applied for a grant (and fulfilled all the requirements to the best of their knowledge) and not gotten it? Is it a pretty sure thing that we will get it if we follow all the rules and create a well-written grant?

It's not a certain thing, but it's also not like a 5% acceptance rate or anything. Your odds are reasonably good if you put together a good submission (which many teams do not do).