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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery
How do you work Einstein with 6 divisions? The Einstein tournament and presentation ceremony already traditionally run well after their slotted time, and adding two more divisions makes it even worse. You no longer have a clean tournament brackets like you would with 2, 4, or 8 alliances advancing, so you likely have to do some sort of round robin.
Six alliances in a round robin means five matches per alliance, or fifteen total matches. That's six to nine more matches as are currently run on Eisntein, and has no real provision for tie-breakers or a true Championship match. In other words, the final match played might not even involve the team who is crowned champion. Can you think of a more anti-climatic ending? If you attach a playoff or championship match to the back-end, it's yet more time added on to the Einstein proceedings.
Six divisions doesn't work from an Einstein perspective.
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This was my first concern too before even worrying about field arrangement. Einstein already takes up just about the maximum amount of time that it can without running late into the night. Having 8 divisions would mean 21 games on einstein. I can't figure out a good way of having a 6 team bracket, you can't give any teams by's into the semi's because there's no seeding order, and if you let every team play each other that's 15 games just for quarter finals. There's also always the possibility that multiple teams come out with the same W/L record screwing up the bracket.
If we do move to 6 FRC fields, those fields would have to be fields that teams from every division rotate onto to save time. However, that makes it a nightmare for teams trying to find seats and scout matches at a different field every couple of matches. 8 fields would be more manageable for teams, but it would still be problematic trying to watch and scout matches halfway across the stadium, let alone scouting multiple matches happening at once.
I don't think more than 4 FRC fields is doable unless each field is it's own division. You can't have 6 divisions because that screws up einstein, and you can't have 8 divisions because there's not enough space in the dome for 8 FRC fields, 2 FTC divisions, and an FLL hybrid einstein/presentation stage area.
Point out if I made any errors, but I just don't think expanding CMP is really possible considering these issues plus all of the previously mentioned ones.