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Re: FRC Blogged - 2014 FIRST Championship Eligibility

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I don't really want to have to make a 32 team pick list, but it would be nice to have a little control over which robot your backup robot would be. What if alliance selections stay as they currently are, but you can pick any non-selected robot you want to be the backup when/if the need arises? I know that our team has run into instances where the available backup robot is somewhat mediocre.
Just a thought.
I dont really see the problem people have with making a longer pick list. If your team does good scouting, then it should be easy to rank teams on the abilities you want on your alliance.
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Re: FRC Blogged - 2014 FIRST Championship Eligibility

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I don't really want to have to make a 32 team pick list, but it would be nice to have a little control over which robot your backup robot would be. What if alliance selections stay as they currently are, but you can pick any non-selected robot you want to be the backup when/if the need arises? I know that our team has run into instances where the available backup robot is somewhat mediocre.
Just a thought.
And so in a division of 100, you'd make 76 robots wait until the final division match to pack up? What about an alliance deciding they'd rather have a specific undrafted robot for their matchup, rather than one of the original picks?

No, having teams draft their backup is a better plan. Of course, this has the unfortunate aspect of qualifying yet another team for the Championship from regionals.
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Re: FRC Blogged - 2014 FIRST Championship Eligibility

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And so in a division of 100, you'd make 76 robots wait until the final division match to pack up? What about an alliance deciding they'd rather have a specific undrafted robot for their matchup, rather than one of the original picks?

No, having teams draft their backup is a better plan. Of course, this has the unfortunate aspect of qualifying yet another team for the Championship from regionals.
I don't think FRC will get to a point where backups are drafted at the regional level. The talent depth is immense in a 100-team division when comparing it to a 40-50 team regional. You'll only add one pre-qual to the Einstein winner.
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Re: FRC Blogged - 2014 FIRST Championship Eligibility

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And so in a division of 100, you'd make 76 robots wait until the final division match to pack up? What about an alliance deciding they'd rather have a specific undrafted robot for their matchup, rather than one of the original picks?

No, having teams draft their backup is a better plan. Of course, this has the unfortunate aspect of qualifying yet another team for the Championship from regionals.
The 4th draft pick could be implemented only at world championships level, or only at world championships and district championships level, rather than being implemented across the board.
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Re: FRC Blogged - 2014 FIRST Championship Eligibility

4th draft picks only for champs, you have to make your 4th pick during alliance selection. IRI does it the right way and works, it's pretty simple.
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Re: FRC Blogged - 2014 FIRST Championship Eligibility

Its only been in recent years that divisions are now at approx. 100 each. And yet, that limit is getting close to its maximum threshold of who is eligible for CMPs with almost no at-large bids to get in.
Its only going to get worse where FIRST makes some tough decisions on qualifying to get to the World Championships similar to that of VEX....i.e. State (District) Championships.

Seems like such a small sacrifice to have a 4 team alliance winning at CMP, given that 32 extra slots for eliminations.
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