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Re: Texas teams, need some help

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Was that during the don't ask, don't tell era or the ask for forgiveness later period? Knowing you Bruce, I'm sure it was the here's a kid who's interested in STEM/robotics, yes we have a place for you on our team ideal.

Honestly, I didn't give it a second thought until one day we were discussing liability if someone got hurt. Thought it was best to check it out.
Although 1370 is slightly outside the reach of the Texas school boards, we had a similar discussion. The result was that we invested in a $2 million liability policy to cover the team and all members while in the shop and on trips. With the insurance now separate from the school district, we could probably push for any student being on the team. Currently, we limit it to 100% from the confines of the school district and 90% from the public schools themselves.
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Re: Texas teams, need some help

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Although 1370 is slightly outside the reach of the Texas school boards, we had a similar discussion. The result was that we invested in a $2 million liability policy to cover the team and all members while in the shop and on trips. With the insurance now separate from the school district, we could probably push for any student being on the team. Currently, we limit it to 100% from the confines of the school district and 90% from the public schools themselves.
There are some great ideas and information on this thread. It's pretty cool to see how passionate people are about FRC and to what extents they will go to give this opportunity to ALL kids. It's clear that if a team gets creative and pushes the right buttons, they have a good chance of overcoming the school board barriers to entry.

In our case, by the time I had heard the school board did not allow kids "outside" the district to participate, the interested private school student decided not to participate. Not sure what I would have done if he still wanted to be apart of the team... you all have inspired me.
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Re: Texas teams, need some help

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3999 is completely independent. We do not get any funding from the local school districts. This has some benefit as we do not have to follow district rules and policies. We are able to take any student that wants to participate. The downside is that our students do not get the same treatment as district students. This becomes a problem when attendance at regionals is not excused.
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Re: Texas teams, need some help

Thanks for the information. You might want to look at how 4-H does things. I have many students that miss school for various functions and they are excused absences.

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Re: Texas teams, need some help

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While my team is not in Texas, we were faced with the exact same situation. We have a core group of students from private and home schools that have been on the team for quite a while. Originally we asked if this was ok, probably 5+ years ago, and we received the ok. Then last year we had to ask the school system a completely unrelated question and they "investigated" or looked into the team and gave us a list of things that needed to be addressed; one of which is the private and home school students.

Our initial reaction was the school system was trying to "take credit" for the program. We were very defensive and aggressive at first, and got nowhere. We settled for the time to look into alternatives. The school system has a relationship with the Boy Scouts of America as an explorer post for other activities, so that quickly filtered to the top. We also did some research on 4-H and a few other local options. We were planning a proposal, but another meeting was held before we could finish the proposal; probably a good thing looking back.

The school system had switched tones and began to work with us on the issue. They noticed and explained they understand what the mission and purpose of the team. They also realized the impact and support the program gives and receives from the community and didn't want to see that diminish in any way. They came out and told us it came down to liability on the non-school system students. That is the root of the problem we had to solve. To do this we agreed to allow the lawyer to write a waiver of liability that each private or home school student must complete. We brought the parents of the students in to allow the lawyer to explain everything and the parents agreed this was a very viable solution.

I encourage you to work with the school system. In our case, we were able to find a "simple" solution that had very little impact on how we normally operated.

Over the weekend I heard that another team picked up liability through their county Parks and Recreation office. Their team was viewed just as any other sport team (soccer, field hockey, etc).

I hope this helps. Please let me know if you need any assistance or further details.
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