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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info

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Spent a little time looking over the list, and I suspect there at least 6 or 7 more missing from the list, that are in the same boat. I know 2851 is planning on participating.

I suspect the following...
Teams that made it to MSC, missing from list...
2000, Team Rock, played worlds last year, played traverse city and gull lake. I suspect still playing, as these were full early in TIMS.
3421, Tachyon TECs - Team website calendar has no data this year, maybe out?

Active 4000's, that are missing...
4294 Star-trec, 3rd year,
4478 Materia Oscura, Played MARC offseason, I would think still in.

The way TIMS works, if you wait list for two events, you can't register and there is no payment due.
According to this post here it looks like 3421 is out for the duration.

I've attached my (somewhat discombobulated) spreadsheet that I've been tracking these things if anybody else wants to take a look.
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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info

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I suspect the following...
Teams that made it to MSC, missing from list...
2000, Team Rock, played worlds last year, played traverse city and gull lake. I suspect still playing, as these were full early in TIMS.
3421, Tachyon TECs - Team website calendar has no data this year, maybe out?
I've also said this in the Registration thread, but I'll say it here for those trying to account for teams.

3421 won't be competing this year. Short version: school let go of lead mentor and doesn't want him to be involved, the rest of us mentors aren't in a position where we can take over that role, and the school has been hesitant to let parents get involved.

The parent of one of our students decided to create a team (5046) at their son's home school as the school is willing to part with the name, but not our supplies. (Specifically, the robot.)



More related: I'm excited to be able to play outside of Michigan soon. We've been trapped in our own state for far too long. I remember a seeing a thread in '09 asking what happened to Michigan teams because not much had been heard about them. Someone responded with something along the lines of "Oh, we're still here, we've just been trapped in our own state playing against each other. We're still good. Heck, we're even better."

So, really, for your own sake, let us out of Michigan so the first time you come up against us isn't at CMP after we've played 40+ matches against ourselves. =P
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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info

I've just re-read Frank's blog posts, his responses to comments and both CD threads.
In the CD thread for the initial blog Kim posed several questions:
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What I am more interested in are the questions that are not touched on in this document & blog:
1. How many World CMP slots is each District going to get?
2. How do Legacy/HoF teams play into the number of slots? What if a Legacy/HoF wins an outside regional slot?
3. What auto-qualifies a team for World CMP from DCMP? Chairmans is noted in the document, but does that mean 0-EI and 0-RAS auto-qualify (even though at regionals EI & RAS have auto-qualified teams in past years).
4. How many of each award do District Championships get to give out (CA, EI, RAS, WF, DL come to mind).
I thought it would be useful to revisit these questions in light of the updates.


Firstly Frank's follow up post yesterday clarified Q2 and answers Q1 with a very clear justification and tantalizing hints of the future


There is also an answer to Q3 within the revised District Points Summary
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Engineering Inspiration and Rookie All-Star Award winners at the District event level will compete at the District Championship level for those specific awards, even if they do not rank high enough to compete with their robots.
Winning one of these awards at the District Championship will also earn them a slot at the FIRST Championship regardless of their final rank in their districts
So we know at least 1 EI and 1 RAS will be auto-bid to the FIRST Championship.


Which brings us to Q4: how many awards are given at the District Championship?


I don't see a direct answer to that question in the blog posts or points summary, although there is a potential hint that multiple DCAs will be awarded (my emphasis)
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Winning a District Championship Chairman’s Award will earn the Team a slot at the FIRST Championship regardless of their final rank in their district.
To me winning a DCA rather than the DCA suggests multiple DCAs at the District Championship, but I don't see clarification for other awards.
Am I missing something or reading too much into the word choice of an indefinite article?
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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info

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If a team wins a regional as a first or second team on the alliance, they are very, very likely to finish in the rankings just high enough to go to WCMP via their DCMP anyway.
Generally true. If you win (or place highly at) a District, chances are you'll continue to do well elsewhere, and that's generally good enough to get you to StL. Yes, it is possible you totally mess up at DCMP and fail to make it to CMP, but that's really unusual/rare.
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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info

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I've just re-read Frank's blog posts, his responses to comments and both CD threads.
In the CD thread for the initial blog Kim posed several questions:

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To me winning a DCA rather than the DCA suggests multiple DCAs at the District Championship, but I don't see clarification for other awards.
Am I missing something or reading too much into the word choice of an indefinite article?
Last year, MSC had three Chairman's winners. http://firstinmichigan.org/FRC_2013/...Supplement.pdf -- page 6
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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info

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Am I missing something or reading too much into the word choice of an indefinite article?
I think you've covered it all... I dont think the numbers of awards are yet clear in documented form. My guess is that they are still finalizing the answer to question 4.

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Last year, MSC had three Chairman's winners. http://firstinmichigan.org/FRC_2013/...Supplement.pdf -- page 6
This doesn't guarantee that there will be 3 winners from the district, there are several things that changed from the 2013 Michigan model.

In my opinion 3CA, 1EI, 1RAS makes sense, but its hard to tell what else may go into their decisions. I wonder if its possible the # of CA's to be proportional to the number of teams sent?
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Re: FRC Blogged - Standard District Points Ranking System – More Info

These are still being worked on. Please check with your district operating committees for more details as we move forward.
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