Safer Saws

[NicholasWW]

Hey,
In the interest of safety, my team (1452) has been looking into the different safety technologies that can come with saws, metal cutting band saws in particular. I was just curious if any one knew about good options.

Thanks

[Chris Endres]

I recommend a blade with about 10-15 teeth / inch, this helps prevent large shavings and stalling of the motor.

[Akash Rastogi]

I think the best way to be safe is to teach the proper safety practices and enforce them strictly. Make sure blade guides aren't too loose, make sure the blade guard is close to the top of the material you are cutting, use a fence for parts, use a good blade, tension the blade properly, etc. You can sometimes use a plastic or wooden piece to push parts through the blade to avoid getting fingers close to the blade. And obviously make sure the blade you are using is appropriate for the material you are going to cut.

Everything here - http://www.cs.rpi.edu/twiki/pub/Robo...dsawSafety.pdf

[EricH]

Originally Posted by Chris Endres

I recommend a blade with about 10-15 teeth / inch, this helps prevent large shavings and stalling of the motor.

For cutting what, exactly? Different materials--even down to aluminum and steel--generally need different tooth counts. (Use of a single blade for multiple types of material will work--but the blade won't last nearly as long.)



Answering the OP question: #1 safety measure is a push stick of some form. It's best if you can get one that will work with the saw... Hard to describe, but most bandsaw tables I've seen have a groove for a push piece; this helps get a straight cut. Otherwise, a longish stick of wood will probably work. (For some jobs, you may be able to hold the material way out to either side in lieu of a push stick, but that's not a guarantee of a safe cut.)

#2, make sure the guide wheels on the blade are adjustable, and work. They'll usually pull a guard down to the material cutting, or just above, which definitely helps safety.

#3, regular inspections of the saw blade, and if you have a blade welder, only trained folks get to use it. Keep that blade in top condition--you don't want it to suddenly break on you.

[jee7s]

Its pretty simple:
Right blade (designed for metal with the tooth count previously mentioned)
Right tension (depends on the blade and the saw)
Right speed (100 ft/min is a good starting setting for metals)
Guard as low as practical (expose the minimum amount of blade)
Hands behind the work (leave the shop with all 10 fingers in good shape)
Lubrication (particularly on steel)
Patience (metal cuts take time)

...that and a knowledgeable adult and you have all you need for a safe and productive saw.

If your band saw is of the horizontal variety add:
Set the feed rate damper properly
Check the clamp so the work is held securely
Test the shutoff switch daily

[magnets]

Most of the accidents and safety issues won't come from not being super-experienced with different types of saw blades (our team isn't), but instead because somebody tries to do something the fast way and does something silly.

It's really important to emphasize safety, especially when cutting metal on a chop saw. We had an adult hurt themselves (not badly) while cutting a piece of box tubing on a chop saw. To save time, he didn't bother replacing the blade missing a tooth. He amazingly made it through about 10 cuts before something went wrong.

[BBray_T1296]

Or you can have a self destructing table saw

[protoserge]

Like others have posted, get a purpose-built machine for metalwork with the proper blade. Keep the machine properly maintained and make sure everyone is vigilant about safety and using the proper technique.

[eli2410]

I see no one has suggested the ultra safe SawStop. While it can't cut metal or anything wet, I have told everyone, while giving tours of our shop, that it is "the safest table saw in the world".

[BBray_T1296]

Originally Posted by eli2410

I see no one has suggested the ultra safe SawStop. While it can't cut metal or anything wet, I have told everyone, while giving tours of our shop, that it is "the safest table saw in the world".

I believe the link I posted was a saw using that technology.

[eli2410]

Originally Posted by BBray_T1296

I believe the link I posted was a saw using that technology.

Sorry, I'm at school, and they block youtube here.

[Phyrxes]

Some of our students tripped the sensor on our school's sawstop table saw one year. They were getting ready to rip a 4'x8' sheet of plywood into strips for bumpers. First couple cuts were fine then there was a loud bang and the saw shut off. It took us a moment to figure out what happened, it apparently the piece of plywood from <large chain home improvement store> was still a little too damp and that tripped the sensor.

A new blade and a few days of curing in the shop later we were finally able to cut the rest of our bumper strips..

[BBray_T1296]

Originally Posted by Phyrxes

<large chain home improvement store>

Just say Home Depot*!

*other brands are available

[Brandon Zalinsky]

Eric, Akash, and Jeff all brought up great points. I'd just like to add to their comments. What I think is just as important as the hardware you have- like a miter gauge or sharp blade- is the skill and knowledge of the student using the machine. Make sure they understand how to use whatever push stick/miter gauge that you have. They should also know how to adjust the tension of the blade properly and the height of the guard. My point is that it doesn't help to have just one student who knows how to do these things, and the shop will be a far safer place if everyone using the bandsaw understands how to use it correctly. It doesn't matter if you have the best technology, if you have a clueless fabricator, you'll have a dangerous shop.

[artdutra04]

Another important safety tip for saw, drills, lathes and milling machines: never wear gloves while operating these tools!

If an injury occurs, wearing gloves will make it significantly worse. While a drill bit or saw blade will chop through your flesh easily, it can and will snag on the fibers of gloves and pull your hand further into the blade, thus causing a much worse injury.