3013 - Game hint?

[Oblarg]

Originally Posted by coalhot

I'll be very upset if the GDC can't manage to come up with more than a rotation of sports and tubes. Their last fully "original" game was 2009...

It's worth noting that just about everything in the 2009 game was really, really bad, so originality isn't everything. At least, that's what everyone I know thinks about it; if anyone has a different opinion, feel free to share it.

[coalhot]

Originally Posted by Oblarg

It's worth noting that just about everything in the 2009 game was really, really bad, so originality isn't everything. At least, that's what everyone I know thinks about it; if anyone has a different opinion, feel free to share it.

I don't know. I get crucified every time I say this, but I kind of enjoyed the 2009 game. There were many flaws though, but no game is perfect.

It would be funny if the game piece is a sphere this year. I think spheres have dominated FRC games in general (at least in the last few years, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012)

It would be nice to see an odd game piece. Wiffle ball anyone?

[Zuelu562]

Originally Posted by coalhot

I don't know. I get crucified every time I say this, but I kind of enjoyed the 2009 game. There were many flaws though, but no game is perfect.

It would be nice to see an odd game piece. Wiffle ball anyone?

Point A: I agree. I liked it overall.

Point B: Never thought of that one. Good one.

[Kevin Thorp]

Originally Posted by Oblarg

It's worth noting that just about everything in the 2009 game was really, really bad...

I think one reason so many veteran teams disliked Lunacy was because it was so different it made them feel like rookies. Maybe that's not a bad thing.

[robochick1319]

Lunacy lacked a big finish - a ta-da! moment at the end that people are on the edge of their seats for. The BEST FRC games have this suspenseful end game and I think the GDC has finally realized that since every year since Lunacy has incorporated that component.

[DampRobot]

Originally Posted by Kevin342

I think one reason so many veteran teams disliked Lunacy was because it was so different it made them feel like rookies. Maybe that's not a bad thing.

No, because they disliked the unwatchablity of the matches and the difficulty of obtaining game pieces. Among many other things, which I'm sure there's can add in.

I can't seem to find it right now, but Cory had a great post about 2009 that said it essentially benefited veteran teams a lot MORE than rookies to have a different playing environment, etc.

I also wouldn't say 2009 was the last "different" year. I think it's pretty easy to make a case for 2010 and last year being fairly different from what we've ever done in the past.

[Nuttyman54]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

No, because they disliked the unwatchablity of the matches and the difficulty of obtaining game pieces. Among many other things, which I'm sure there's can add in.

I can't seem to find it right now, but Cory had a great post about 2009 that said it essentially benefited veteran teams a lot MORE than rookies to have a different playing environment, etc.

Besides how unwatchable most of the matches were, there was very little opportunity to innovate, many human players were better than their team's robots, and a dead/missing alliance partner was a death spell because it directly affected how easy your opponents goals were to access.

SVR finals were some of the worst matches I saw all year. More than half of the time at least 5 of the 6 robots were pinning eachother on one side of the field not moving.

[Kevin Thorp]

Hmmm... the Lego kit #3013 is a "Space Jet".

[DampRobot]

Originally Posted by Kevin342

Hmmm... the Lego kit #3013 is a "Space Jet".

Sounds like it could be that 2009/2012 combo everyone was waiting for: Space Jam!

[Libby K]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

Sounds like it could be that 2009/2012 combo everyone was waiting for: Space Jam!

Everybody get up, it's time to slam now...

Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence

I'm secretly Dean Kamen.

aaaaaand nope. Not even a little bit.

[MamaSpoldi]

Originally Posted by Kevin342

I think one reason so many veteran teams disliked Lunacy was because it was so different it made them feel like rookies. Maybe that's not a bad thing.

I personally disliked Lunacy because it was really difficult to explain to spectators who were not part of an FRC team. It was difficult just to tell which teams were on the same alliance, from the starting placement at alternating positions around the field to the bumpers on the trailers setting the alliance color which was hard to see. And then the idea that your score was determined by the number of orbit balls in your opponent's trailer. The field was very crowded because of the 6 additional trailers. And yes, it was hard to tell who was winning. Also the difficulty in explaining the difference between the point values of the different game pieces, including the empty cell that was no points but allowed you to trade it in for a super cell. It was just overload, too complicated for the casual observer to enjoy.

[Oblarg]

Originally Posted by Kevin342

I think one reason so many veteran teams disliked Lunacy was because it was so different it made them feel like rookies. Maybe that's not a bad thing.

Nah, I'm pretty sure the reasons I didn't like it were that you couldn't keep score, the humans played better than the robots, and that the game pieces were always broken.

The novel drive surface/wheels were a nice idea, I guess, but in practice they essentially just made the game messier and drive designs less interesting (mechanically, that is).

[[martinskot]]

Aside from the 3013 thing, has anyone noticed the game manual updates on November 26 and 27th?

[Jared Russell]

3013 is an anagram for 3301.

Clearly, this is a pointer to a much more elaborate game hint...

[SuspectedApollo]

Originally Posted by Jared341

3013 is an anagram for 3301.

Clearly, this is a pointer to a much more elaborate game hint...

I'm going to run with this. Supposedly the next round should start on January 4th. Is anybody around here doing something else that day?