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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the wording is complete mechanisms and complete robots are not allowed to be shown. Documenting prototypes with video would then be perfectly fine because they aren't completed mechanisms. Thus, much of Spectrum's build blog would be perfectly legal-- only the videos of testing finalized mechanisms and pictures of the powdercoated frame would not be allowed.

All in all, I think that's a perfectly fine compromise-- if you're showing off your completed robot or completed shooter before the reveal, you aren't actually revealing anything as the entire surprise is spoiled already.

I'll try to get the budding videographers on my team interested in this-- it sounds like it'll be an awesome event again this year!
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

This is awesome! I can't wait. If the robot actually seems attractive to other teams soon enough, I might set to work on a little video!

Side note: Is that bowl strategically placed to hide a mouse Mike is using to click through a script?
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the wording is complete mechanisms and complete robots are not allowed to be shown. Documenting prototypes with video would then be perfectly fine because they aren't completed mechanisms.
Correct. Complete systems and prototypes can not be shown ahead of time if you plan on appearing in Premiere Night. But documenting prototypes of partial systems would be allowed within reason. Hope that clears it up.


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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

Mike and Justin thanks for doing premiere night again. I thought it was great last year and i know 3266 plans to submit our unveil video again this year. We'll probably make a short version for premiere night and have a full length video on our YouTube channel. One of the best things about premiere night last year was seeing a whole lot of other robots at once, which gave us a better idea of how our bot would stack up against the competition. And it was so rewarding to read the comments about our robot. I remember someone calling it a "baby 148" which was easily one of the best complements I could hope for.

As far as the restrictions on prematurely posting pictures and videos of mechanisms it's completely reasonable to ask this. I know we'll be posting teaser videos like we did last year but are glad to keep our complete design under wraps. It's pretty simple, if a team doesn't agree with your requests then they don't have to participate. You don't have to do premiere night it's a bonus for us teams, we need to keep that in mind.
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

Tetras? Are you expecting an "awkward object pick and place" game? Are you camping outside of FRC Headquarters?

Soooo many questions...
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

Wow, talking about top25 already? Oh god, that means the season's coming soon...

Excited for the new criteria- hopefully this Premiere Night will be even better than the first! 1923 plans on making a video for the robot this year, so we'll make sure to talk about contributing to the show.
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

I want to clarify further our position.

We fully understand the enjoyment teams get by posting their progress throughout the season. I saw some great stuff from Spectrum and loved their build blog. It's important to us that those kinds of things continue and that Premiere Night isn't seen as a reason to stop.

Things like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTFTWgB1cY4
would be perfectly fine.

However this video, which reveals a big component of the robot (The raised style shooter) would be too much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kJCwUUJlw

As I said there are creative ways to document your progress without needing to give anything away...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62JTvaoZc8g

I hope this clears up some of the confusion.

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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62JTvaoZc8g

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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

I understand your position Justin and like I said before you have every right to make that decision however we still won't participate if we can't release our robot. The releasing is an important part of helping teams (For the record. the raised shooter didn't help any teams including ours ).

I will still be watching and our team will still have a viewing party like we did last year. I love the idea of premiere night but I still think it's better for the community to have more open robot concepts.
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

I don't think there is significant value added to premier night by restricting what a team can share about their robot. I think the value of showing a lot of robot videos all at once in one place is to make it easy for people to see lots of robots and get jazzed up. This brings in new people who would not otherwise have combed the forums for robot videos. Letting teams show their robot wouldn't affect that value because the people not combing the forums wouldn't see it anyway.

Perhaps there is a middle ground though, Top 25 wants exclusive content (at least until after it's shown) to make their show more interesting and the community wants to share information about others robots that could help them and others. What if premier night focused on "showy" video that's intended to show off a fully finished robot and all it's capabilities. Teams would submit a video of the entire robot working and playing the game to Top 25 but would still be able to share short videos focusing just on a individual part of their robot. These short videos would be limited to a single mechanism working and maybe by time as well, just to display functionality. While these videos would show off mechanisms they wouldn't show off an entire functioning integrated robot playing the game, which is the really important and impressive part anyway. Top 25 is still going to be the first place that anyone who hasn't been combing CD would see robots so it's still a complete premier to plenty of people.

These would be what the short videos would be like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kJCwUUJlw (same one they said wasn't okay above)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4qvOQCnNw0 (perhaps with fewer takes in the video)

And a long showy one would be this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DojyJ9bZ4fk

I think there is a clear difference between those videos. By separating the showy ones from the basic ones we can have our cake and eat it too.
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

Hey everyone! Now that kickoff is here, we just wanted to put out a friendly reminder about Premiere Night. We would love to show as many robots as we can! Please check the above video and information for all of the details.

As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email us at MikeandJustinITM@gmail.com
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So something happened to our original YouTube video, so we had to reupload it. The new link can be found HERE.

We look forward to seeing what all of you come up with!!
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

I think the submission form you guys had up isn't there anymore, unless you open it after a certain date? Our team didn't participate in this last year so we're not really sure.
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I think the submission form you guys had up isn't there anymore, unless you open it after a certain date? Our team didn't participate in this last year so we're not really sure.
The submission form has not been posted yet. It will become available as build season starts to wind down. No sense submitting a video this early.
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