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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

I want to clarify further our position.

We fully understand the enjoyment teams get by posting their progress throughout the season. I saw some great stuff from Spectrum and loved their build blog. It's important to us that those kinds of things continue and that Premiere Night isn't seen as a reason to stop.

Things like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTFTWgB1cY4
would be perfectly fine.

However this video, which reveals a big component of the robot (The raised style shooter) would be too much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kJCwUUJlw

As I said there are creative ways to document your progress without needing to give anything away...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62JTvaoZc8g

I hope this clears up some of the confusion.

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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

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As I said there are creative ways to document your progress without needing to give anything away...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62JTvaoZc8g

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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

I understand your position Justin and like I said before you have every right to make that decision however we still won't participate if we can't release our robot. The releasing is an important part of helping teams (For the record. the raised shooter didn't help any teams including ours ).

I will still be watching and our team will still have a viewing party like we did last year. I love the idea of premiere night but I still think it's better for the community to have more open robot concepts.
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

I don't think there is significant value added to premier night by restricting what a team can share about their robot. I think the value of showing a lot of robot videos all at once in one place is to make it easy for people to see lots of robots and get jazzed up. This brings in new people who would not otherwise have combed the forums for robot videos. Letting teams show their robot wouldn't affect that value because the people not combing the forums wouldn't see it anyway.

Perhaps there is a middle ground though, Top 25 wants exclusive content (at least until after it's shown) to make their show more interesting and the community wants to share information about others robots that could help them and others. What if premier night focused on "showy" video that's intended to show off a fully finished robot and all it's capabilities. Teams would submit a video of the entire robot working and playing the game to Top 25 but would still be able to share short videos focusing just on a individual part of their robot. These short videos would be limited to a single mechanism working and maybe by time as well, just to display functionality. While these videos would show off mechanisms they wouldn't show off an entire functioning integrated robot playing the game, which is the really important and impressive part anyway. Top 25 is still going to be the first place that anyone who hasn't been combing CD would see robots so it's still a complete premier to plenty of people.

These would be what the short videos would be like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kJCwUUJlw (same one they said wasn't okay above)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4qvOQCnNw0 (perhaps with fewer takes in the video)

And a long showy one would be this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DojyJ9bZ4fk

I think there is a clear difference between those videos. By separating the showy ones from the basic ones we can have our cake and eat it too.
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

Hey everyone! Now that kickoff is here, we just wanted to put out a friendly reminder about Premiere Night. We would love to show as many robots as we can! Please check the above video and information for all of the details.

As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email us at MikeandJustinITM@gmail.com
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

So something happened to our original YouTube video, so we had to reupload it. The new link can be found HERE.

We look forward to seeing what all of you come up with!!
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

I think the submission form you guys had up isn't there anymore, unless you open it after a certain date? Our team didn't participate in this last year so we're not really sure.
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

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I think the submission form you guys had up isn't there anymore, unless you open it after a certain date? Our team didn't participate in this last year so we're not really sure.
The submission form has not been posted yet. It will become available as build season starts to wind down. No sense submitting a video this early.
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

I have a clarification question. Would a picture or video of a bare bones chassis (just sheet metal, nothing else) be considered an entire mechanism?
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

I do believe that the "if mechanism shown" bullet is a bit harsh on teams. It seems that most individuals that are trying to put something together while updating others about the build season seem to intertwine in some cases. If a team has a great 90 second highlight video that they spent 4 to 5 hours on just in post production, I would still love to show it regardless if they have "revealed" something else. There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding the subject anyway but it's up to you guys.

With that out of the way, I'm certainly looking forward to the premier night.
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

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I have a clarification question. Would a picture or video of a bare bones chassis (just sheet metal, nothing else) be considered an entire mechanism?
This would not be considered a complete system, unless this was the only system that your team was building.

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I do believe that the "if mechanism shown" bullet is a bit harsh on teams. It seems that most individuals that are trying to put something together while updating others about the build season seem to intertwine in some cases. If a team has a great 90 second highlight video that they spent 4 to 5 hours on just in post production, I would still love to show it regardless if they have "revealed" something else. There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding the subject anyway but it's up to you guys.

With that out of the way, I'm certainly looking forward to the premier night.
The overall goal here is to show robots for the first time, there's many videos out there of teams that I will watch over and over again. But there is not as much excitement as the first time I saw their robot. On Premiere night we are looking to ignite that initial excitement in a teams robot. If someone has already shown their robot there is simply not as much excitement when re-showing it.

This is also the cause for some of the ambiguity here. A team last year could have only built a climber, and if they had showed this one mechanism they would have effectively shown off their whole robot. But there are other robot designs that could have shown their climber and not even have highlighted the most important features of their robot.
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Re: [FRCTop25.com]- 2014 Premiere Night

If our team goes to a pre-stop build day practice (week zero) but we don't post any pictures or videos of our robot, can we still participate in premier night?
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If our team goes to a pre-stop build day practice (week zero) but we don't post any pictures or videos of our robot, can we still participate in premier night?
Absolutely! We plan on going to a Week Zero event as well!




On a side note, the submission form for Premiere Night is now OPEN! You can head over to http://www.frctop25.com/submissionform/ to submit your link to your video! We are so excited for this night! As always, if you have ANY questions, please feel free to email us at MikeandJustinITM@gmail.com! Thanks, and we'll see you soon!
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Absolutely! We plan on going to a Week Zero event as well!




On a side note, the submission form for Premiere Night is now OPEN! You can head over to http://www.frctop25.com/submissionform/ to submit your link to your video! We are so excited for this night! As always, if you have ANY questions, please feel free to email us at MikeandJustinITM@gmail.com! Thanks, and we'll see you soon!
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