[FRC Blog] 2014 Game Hint

[RonnyV]

Originally Posted by Calvin Hartley

I believe somebody earlier in the thread used Wolfram Alpha to do this and got a sphere... I could be wrong though, it may have been something else. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

That's correct! Somebody plotted it in Wolfram Alpha and got a sphere.


Somebody else plotted it different. I only saved the link of the attachment not the whole post. But you can see what he did. It forms a rectangle. So the conclusion of the guy was: Triangle, Sphere, Rectangle = 3 game pieces.

Triangle = Coordiantes google maps
Sphere = Wolfram Alpha
Rectangle = His plot

Here is his plot: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/at...5&d=1387644692

[magnets]

Originally Posted by RonnyV

That's correct! Somebody plotted it in Wolfram Alpha and got a sphere.


Somebody else plotted it different. I only saved the link of the attachment not the whole post. But you can see what he did. It forms a rectangle. So the conclusion of the guy was: Triangle, Sphere, Rectangle = 3 game pieces.

Triangle = Coordiantes google maps
Sphere = Wolfram Alpha
Rectangle = His plot

Here is his plot: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/at...5&d=1387644692

Triangle- Any three points will make a triangle, unless it's a line, can be done with random numbers.
Sphere- A single point was plotted on a sphere. The same could be done with any number.
Rectangle- The rectangle was plotted by making a rectangle with dimensions that were the given numbers. Again, any set of three numbers could do this.

What I'm trying to say is that if your game hint solution works with almost every set of three numbers, it might not be the solution.

[rsisk]

If only it was a triangle, circle, rectangle... It would be just like the FIRST logo

[Johnny_5]

Originally Posted by zacube

When you Goodle 8234, the first result is a NI part ID. 5761126 comes up with a Digikey part number... Not getting anything on the other two, though, so can't be sure....

Here is something to think about. So I know we can't get very far with that part number. But what if it's similar to the hint from 2 years ago. The hint was a list of donated and purchased components from Rockwell/Allen Bradley. What if the part is in the KoP or on the field?

[Sorry2]

Hello all.
Someone earlier said something about "Who's on FIRST?" Being a good game title. And that got me thinking about when it was created. Well, it was in 1938. (Source: http://thenostalgialeague.com/kwtnl/whos-on-first.html and Wikipedia, but I got lazy and didn't look it up again. ) That means that this year is the 75th anniversary. Someone might have hit a home run with that idea! (pun absolutely intended) Sorry if there are any mistakes, I'm on a cell phone.

[Deke]

First I would like to say that I do not believe there is a weight reduction for this game. In the north, they have weight reductions every spring when the ground thaws so that large trucks do not destroy the roads. We have enough torn up roads just from the freezing and thawing without large semis crushing them. So there are thousands of instances of weight reduction on roads, it is likely a coincident that picture was found.

I was thinking about game piece volume for the 3 numbers. What if there are 3 different sized game pieces and they gave us the volume for them? Those numbers seem pretty specific. Here was a calculation on volume with in^3 converting to the diameter of a sphere in inches:

144.4561403508771929 in^3 = 6.50997 inches (diameter)
31.13907284769211920 in^3 = 3.90333 inches (diameter)
3.943186131848665063 in^3 = 1.96012 inches (diameter)

Now the numbers don't work out to a nice whole number, but maybe the game pieces have dimples or are in a 3D polygon shape. If so, these could be some of the smallest game pieces yet. The ~1.96 in (dia.) is slightly larger than a golf ball.

With the objects being on the smaller side of things, I lean away from a stacking game. Certainly lean away from a shooting game (unless the numbers are the area of the targets). It seems to lean towards a placement game with smaller containers than are customary to past FRC games.

Have a Merry Christmas!

[Anthony4004]

Originally Posted by Sorry2

Hello all.
Someone earlier said something about "Who's on FIRST?" Being a good game title. And that got me thinking about when it was created. Well, it was in 1938. (Source: http://thenostalgialeague.com/kwtnl/whos-on-first.html and Wikipedia, but I got lazy and didn't look it up again. ) That means that this year is the 75th anniversary. Someone might have hit a home run with that idea! (pun absolutely intended) Sorry if there are any mistakes, I'm on a cell phone.

I would love this! Mainly because it would give me the right to make everyone watch Abbott and Costello!

[Jill_ls101]

Using my Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Ring, I have determined that the game hint reads:

"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"

[Willem Bohrer]

8234/57
61126/1963
62326/15806

Fibonacci sequence: 1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,134, etc.

Feel free to do what you want with this information. This may be connected to fluid dynamics?

[Rynocorn]

Originally Posted by Jill_ls101

Using my Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Ring, I have determined that the game hint reads:

"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"

Someone has been watching TBS today....

[Laser_Shows]

Originally Posted by Jill_ls101

Using my Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Ring, I have determined that the game hint reads:

"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"

/begin sarcasm

This means one of two games.
1. Something involving a red ryder bb gun. Oops; this violates the spirit of FIRST so it cannot happen.
2. A football.

My money is on #2.

/end sarcasm

[Sarakiro]

Hi FIRST community,

I will admit that I am usually one to stray away from threads full of mere speculation- Nonetheless, I present some thoughts...

The Game Hint:
The game hint seems to be a series of 3 numbers-

My initial thoughts were coordinates (perhaps defining maximum X, Y and Z field dimension restrictions relative to the point 0,0,0 but the scale seems rather uncommon lest each value is in it's own specific unit [leave it to the GDC to be vague and "justified" in their hints])

My next thought was perhaps a scoring threshold, either pertaining to value or placement of game pieces; that too in my opinion can be denounced for proportions.

Throwing those aside, I look to game trends

Trends:

So here is some speculation of my own-

I don't think a stacking game is so far fetched. One such game I envision has the field strewn with crates (similar in design to milk crates) and numerous (90-200) balls of about 3 inches in diameter.

The objective of the game would be to stack these crates with variable numbers of balls in them, thus scoring points determined by stack size, and ball content.

The complications include dealing with upside down, sideways and irregular crates amongst "herds" of loose balls, the combination of which are difficult to navigate, and difficult to handle provided a versatile range of game pieces.

Alliances would also need to be concerned with defending built stacks.

(FIRST is decently rooted in providing irregular driving conditions; off the top of my head I list Maze Craze, and He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named (rhymes with "*unacy")

Sorry for ranting,
I guess we know why I try to stay away from these threads,

[JB987]

I think you just described the foundation of the 2011? FTC game, Bowled Over Thus the FRC GDC emulates the FTC GDC...

[Orion.DeYoe]

Originally Posted by tondogone

i dont believe that anyone has plotted them yet like that.

Please read the thread before commenting. Check back several pages, I plotted them in 3D several days ago.

[Calvin Hartley]

Originally Posted by Orion.DeYoe

Please read the thread before commenting. Check back several pages, I plotted them in 3D several days ago.

At risk of sounding like a jerk, but... Did you read the posts following the one you quoted? This was already addressed. Let's try not to be hypocritical. Thanks! (Although we're all guilty of this, I am sure.)

Originally Posted by RonnyV

That's correct! Somebody plotted it in Wolfram Alpha and got a sphere.


Somebody else plotted it different. I only saved the link of the attachment not the whole post. But you can see what he did. It forms a rectangle. So the conclusion of the guy was: Triangle, Sphere, Rectangle = 3 game pieces.

Triangle = Coordiantes google maps
Sphere = Wolfram Alpha
Rectangle = His plot

Here is his plot: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/at...5&d=1387644692

Now let's get back onto the original topic!