[FRC Blog] Kickoff Broadcast and Game Hint Redux

[magnets]

I may be totally wrong, but I'm pretty sure nobody has gotten it yet. I think the three things are three ratios. Maybe they're unit conversions or game piece dimensions, but I don't think assists are the hint.

[peronis]

so i agree with hockey, or field hockey. Now for the endgame.... I do think the water bottles/staircase/ramp thing from the original thread is important. And the word 'point' in the poem. Also the assisting hint. If I put them together a cool thing would be a capture the flag sort of end game. One robot would have to lift a bridge by wedging itself under the ramp (ramp, staircase clues) in order for another one (assisting) to get up to the flag (point). Perhaps the flag would be on a 2nd layer, or tier of the field.

[Zeromonkey]

Originally Posted by kk_4849

So would the Coopetition come at the "end game"?

I would presume that it would come at the end of the game, but that is just looking at the dynamics of Rebound Rumble. The endgame was a chance for an alliance to either benefit just themselves or help themselves and the other alliance. I came up with ideas that could occur at the endgame, there are other ways we could assist during a game however

[atucker4072]

Originally Posted by magnets

I may be totally wrong, but I'm pretty sure nobody has gotten it yet. I think the three things are three ratios. Maybe they're unit conversions or game piece dimensions, but I don't think assists are the hint.

I agree but we can only get so close and the assist idea is the closest we have gotten because it matches both hints.

[malanis]

Originally Posted by magnets

I may be totally wrong, but I'm pretty sure nobody has gotten it yet. I think the three things are three ratios. Maybe they're unit conversions or game piece dimensions, but I don't think assists are the hint.

They said it would be so obvious when we see it. it would be extremely easy to see. and thats what we have now

[Zeromonkey]

Originally Posted by magnets

I may be totally wrong, but I'm pretty sure nobody has gotten it yet. I think the three things are three ratios. Maybe they're unit conversions or game piece dimensions, but I don't think assists are the hint.

Note what Frank said, "
61474:135, 12661:1963, 32662:15806

From what I've seen on CD, folks are trying far too hard on this. Once you get the answer, it will be so obvious I expect some reactions like this*:"

(I included the hint just for a refresher for those at this end of the thread)

Maybe the assisting was what they were going for, and we have just been over-complicating it, second-guessing ourselves.
Or maybe we are all completely wrong
I have to agree with atucker though.

[atucker4072]

Originally Posted by Zeromonkey

Note what Frank said, "
61474:135, 12661:1963, 32662:15806

From what I've seen on CD, folks are trying far too hard on this. Once you get the answer, it will be so obvious I expect some reactions like this*:"

(I included the hint just for a refresher for those at this end of the thread)

Maybe the assisting was what they were going for, and we have just been over-complicating it, second-guessing ourselves.
Or maybe we are all completely wrong
I have to agree with atucker though.

A few minutes after this thread started we came up with a new idea and have been rolling with it and we have actually gotten a little ways...

[Anthony4004]

Originally Posted by atucker4072

A few minutes after this thread started we came up with a new idea and have been rolling with it and we have actually gotten a little ways...

But we still have not linked the game hint with the poem yet, which will give us a much better idea.

[atucker4072]

Originally Posted by tondogone

But we still have not linked the game hint with the poem yet, which will give us a much better idea.

The blog says we should be able to find it just just using the numbers. So that said let's focus on that.

[Bill_B]

The principal value of the game hints for the GDC appears to be to generate a flurry of FRC -based discussion about what could be possible in a future game. I'm only sure you are wrong if you think that any idea(s) posted here will be completely ignored in the creation of some future game. Relation or validity with respect to the upcoming game need only be tangential with some nebulous tie-in to be useful as idea bait for us. So look at all the neat stuff people have proposed. What you might do is look at game hint discussions that preceded games by two or three years to see if any ideas from them were incorporated in some way.

[Zeromonkey]

Originally Posted by tondogone

But we still have not linked the game hint with the poem yet, which will give us a much better idea.

"First game hint we thought was so tame
It surely will point to the game
But so far no luck
CD's run amok
Much clearer is this one we claim"
Just to give you some information on Limericks.
The 1st, 2nd, and 5th lines rhyme.
The 3rd and 4th lines rhyme.
The 1st, 2nd, and 5th lines have 3 stressed syllables.
The 3rd and 4th lines have 2.

Have a party with it!

[atucker4072]

Originally Posted by Zeromonkey

"First game hint we thought was so tame
It surely will point to the game
But so far no luck
CD's run amok
Much clearer is this one we claim"
Just to give you some information on Limericks.
The 1st, 2nd, and 5th lines rhyme.
The 3rd and 4th lines rhyme.
The 1st, 2nd, and 5th lines have 3 stressed syllables.
The 3rd and 4th lines have 2.

Have a party with it!

Let's keep this focused and not jump all over the place...

[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by kk_4849

So would the Coopetition come at the "end game"?

I think it would be pretty cool if they did it during the autonomous mode. Maybe if a robot for each alliance drives to a circle in the middle of the field, both alliances receive an autonomous bonus (maybe 18 points if last year). It was still be extremely benifical for both alliances to attempt it (as autonomous could be the first tie-breaker) and easy enough that any robot that can drive can do it (maybe veteran teams would work with their rookie partners to program their autonomous modes so the veterans could do more elaborate auto modes like the 7 disc autonomous). Plus, it wouldn't be quite as important as it was in 2012, which many complained about.

[thursam]

Originally Posted by Zeromonkey

If you refer back to the first page in the thread, they found out that the hint most likely refers to assisting...

I know what Coopertition and Gracious Professionalism are - I just wasn't sure how they applied to competition games. In terms of scoring, and stuff.
Thank you all for clarifying.

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The format of the numbers seems to be an analogy. I know that someone converted them to dates, and got the assist theory that way, but has anyone tried converting them into words?
I know it's a long shot, but anything is possible, right?

[atucker4072]

Originally Posted by XaulZan11

I think it would be pretty cool if they did it during the autonomous mode. Maybe if a robot for each alliance drives to a circle in the middle of the field, both alliances receive an autonomous bonus (maybe 18 points if last year). It was still be extremely benifical for both alliances to attempt it (as autonomous could be the first tie-breaker) and easy enough that any robot that can drive can do it (maybe veteran teams would work with their rookie partners to program their autonomous modes so the veterans could do more elaborate auto modes like the 7 disc autonomous). Plus, it wouldn't be quite as important as it was in 2012, which many complained about.

I feel like this would be doable but it would not be that great of an idea because of having contact with other robots with no human interaction.