Aerial Assist Discussion Thread

[Joshua25801]

Originally Posted by Hallry

So, whatcha think?!?

Do you know the weight of the game ball this year?

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by mollyjane14

The assist situation is interesting... I'm wondering if a pass still counts as an assist if it were bounced or rolled? Didn't see anything in the manual about that

Assists are defined as possessing the ball, and possession is defined as, per G12:

An ALLIANCE may not POSSESS their opponent’s BALLS. The following criteria define POSSESSION :
A) “carrying” (moving while supporting BALLS in or on the ROBOT),
B) “herding” (repeated pushing or bumping),
C) “launching” (impelling BALLS to a desired location or direction), and
D) “trapping” (overt isolation or holding one or more BALLS against a FIELD element or ROBOT in an attempt to shield them).

[kk_4849]

What is the weight of the game ball? I can't find it in the manual.

[The Trooper]

About 4 of us have asked now, for those of you quoting the rule book, could you please help us out with a password?

[Joshua25801]

Originally Posted by The Trooper

About 4 of us have asked now, for those of you quoting the rule book, could you please help us out with a password?

3Zone2Goals1Alliance!

[The Trooper]

Originally Posted by Joshua25801

3Zone2Goals1Alliance!

Much appreciated Joshua! Thank you!

[Joshua25801]

Originally Posted by The Trooper

Much appreciated Joshua! Thank you!

no problem

[rkoripalli]

If an alliance were to have 3 assists and then a robot from the opposing alliance were to block the shot, and then the offensive robot picked up the ball and made it does the offensive alliance still get the assist points?

[StatusAnalysis]

So basically Overdrive+Breakaway+Ultimate Ascent= Aerial Assist?

[ElfMaster]

So... can you get the points for the truss + catch without getting it into the goal?

[maths222]

AndyMark is selling the balls: red and blue

[Bryan Herbst]

Originally Posted by ElfMaster

So... can you get the points for the truss + catch without getting it into the goal?

Yes. The scoring table on page 1 shows catch and truss points as being distinct from the goal points, whereas assists are dependent on getting the ball into the goal.

EDIT: Perhaps not. Depends on your interpretation of 3.1.4:

Points are awarded once per CYCLE for BALLS SCORED by ROBOTS in the GOALS, BALLS SCORED by ROBOTS over the TRUSS, and for each ROBOT CATCH. Additional points are credited to an ALLIANCE upon each GOAL based on the number of ASSISTS earned by the ALLIANCE for that CYCLE.

Good QA question.

[cgmv123]

Originally Posted by maths222

AndyMark is selling the balls: http://www.andymark.com/FRC-2014-p/am-2720.htm

They do not appear to be available in FIRST Choice at this time.

[jp1247]

Neat game, interesting there's no endgame...

Though, it may just be me, it seems that there is no point to the lower goals. Every team (assumption, though a fairly good one I'd say) is going to at least AIM for getting the high goals. Since there can only be one ball in play (correct me) the alliance wants full assist points, and the top points. I feel like this puts pressure onto teams to build something capable of getting the top goal. I could be missing some element here, but I think this takes away the specialized robot. Every robot has to be able to do everything because who knows what teams are on your alliance.

My $.02. I really hope someone can prove me wrong here. (In a professional manner of course )

[thegem811]

If a ball is thrown out of play after collecting assists, when the ball is brought back into play, are the assists reset, or do you just have to score the ball?