2014 Rules Changes

[WeRrobots]

Can we use other alliances balls? What about entering another bot's perimeter for an assist, if it is on our alliance?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by WeRrobots

Can we use other alliances balls? What about entering another bot's perimeter for an assist, if it is on our alliance?

Start by reading the Manual, please. If you had read G11, you would have discovered just how bad the penalty for using your opponents' ball is. (It's NOT pretty.)

For the other one, there is no rule specifically against it. However, you only get 20" outside your own perimeter to work with, per R3-B.

[Whippet]

I believe that this is new:

G20: ROBOTS must be in compliance with Section 4.6: BUMPER Rules throughout the MATCH. Violation: DISABLED

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Whippet

I believe that this is new:

I saw that too. Make your bumpers robust. If they go out of the bumper zone, you get DISABLED!

[atlas]

in regards to the horizontal extensions. you can go out up to 20in in any direction correct? But does that limit you to one <20in extension at a time in the 6in cylinder? Or can you have more than one as long as they aren't 20in?

[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by atlas

in regards to the horizontal extensions. you can go out up to 20in in any direction correct? But does that limit you to one <20in extension at a time in the 6in cylinder? Or can you have more than one as long as they aren't 20in?

The six inch cylinder is an entirely different rule.

Vertically, any extending parts going higher than 5 feet can only be extended in the Goalie Zone and must fit within a 6" vertical cylinder.

Horizontally, you can extend 20 inches normal to the edge of any frame perimeter member. Height doesn't matter as long as it's under 5 feet. I have just read the rules but I do not remember anything limiting how many extensions are out at one time.

[Whippet]

Originally Posted by atlas

in regards to the horizontal extensions. you can go out up to 20in in any direction correct? But does that limit you to one <20in extension at a time in the 6in cylinder? Or can you have more than one as long as they aren't 20in?

The six-inch cylinder rule only applies to vertical extensions.

[Jhultink]

So, let's say all 6 robots miss their auto points and the balls all stay on the field. How will the refs keep track of all the balls and assists?

Or will assists not count until all the auto balls have been scored? If this is the case, wouldn't it be better to have some of your alliance partners not even do auto so that you can get assist point in Tele-op quicker?

[MasterEric]

Originally Posted by Jhultink

So, let's say all 6 robots miss their auto points and the balls all stay on the field. How will the refs keep track of all the balls and assists?

Or will assists not count until all the auto balls have been scored? If this is the case, wouldn't it be better to have some of your alliance partners not even do auto so that you can get assist point in Tele-op quicker?

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=123985
You can't get assists in autonomous.

[PAR_WIG1350]

I'm still in disbelief over this one, even after re-reading the rules and ctrl+f searching

The ridiculous Cv limit on pneumatic solenoid valves has been removed entirely

[Ty Tremblay]

Originally Posted by PAR_WIG1350

I'm still in disbelief over this one, even after re-reading the rules and ctrl+f searching

The ridiculous Cv limit on pneumatic solenoid valves has been removed entirely

By Cv limit, do you mean flow rate? If so, this is big.

[RyanShoff]

A quick search found this valve:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#6425k12/=q4ehnb

1/8" inlets with 1.0 Cv. Last years limit was .32 Cv.

[Hallry]

Has no one yet said that matches are now 2:30, not 2:15?

[cgmv123]

Originally Posted by Hallry

Has no one yet said that matches are now 2:30, not 2:15?

I did. In the first post.

[RufflesRidge]

Originally Posted by RyanShoff

A quick search found this valve:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#6425k12/=q4ehnb

1/8" inlets with 1.0 Cv. Last years limit was .32 Cv.

Has anyone calculated whether this would actually improve the flow rate with the diameter tubing that is required?