Aerial Assist Discussion Thread

[4AngryNutjobs]

oh and what are the thoughts on the definition of losing possession and what you have to do after losing possession?

[bhrobot]

I have a question, if you were in the opposing zone and throw a ball over the truss and made it in your goal, would you also get the truss points?

[Coin3]

Originally Posted by 4AngryNutjobs

Couple questions. Do assists other than the truss pass/catch count if the goal is not scored? Also if you missed and made a couple more assists and managed to score this time, could you get over 3 assists for a cycle?

1. Assists only count as a bonus to the base point value for scoring a ball. The scoring chart Table 3-2 shows this.

2. In Section 3.1.4 it says "the maximum number of ASSISTS in a single CYCLE is three (3)." So no, since that your alliance is still in the same cycle and still has the assists from earlier in the cycle.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by bhrobot

I have a question, if you were in the opposing zone and throw a ball over the truss and made it in your goal, would you also get the truss points?

Truss points, but check the rules on scoring goals - you're limited where you can shoot from.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by 4AngryNutjobs

oh and what are the thoughts on the definition of losing possession and what you have to do after losing possession?

The words "lose" and "losing" are in the manual one time each, and have nothing to do with POSSESSION.

That said, if you do lose possession of the ball, you'd better try hard to regain it because you're not going to score any points without it.

[marcusb258]

Our team heard that at 4pm we would be able to order the balls from FIRST Choice but when we go on their website, the balls arent there. Anyone have an answer or the same problem?

Thanks and good luck teams!!!

[Jhultink]

So, let's say all 6 robots miss their auto points and the balls all stay on the field. How will the refs keep track of all the balls and assists?

Or will assists not count until all the auto balls have been scored? If this is the case, wouldn't it be better to have some of your alliance partners not even do auto so that you can get assist point in Tele-op quicker?

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Jhultink

So, let's say all 6 robots miss their auto points and the balls all stay on the field. How will the refs keep track of all the balls and assists?

Or will assists not count until all the auto balls have been scored? If this is the case, wouldn't it be better to have some of your alliance partners not even do auto so that you can get assist point in Tele-op quicker?

ASSISTS count as part of a CYCLE. A CYCLE begins when the the PEDESTAL lights up.

3.1.2

Although an ALLIANCE may start a MATCH with up to three (3) BALLS, the PEDESTAL will only be illuminated when the last BALL that started the MATCH is SCORED, effectively reducing the number of BALLS in play per ALLIANCE to one (1).

[Snapshot]

Has anyone been able to identify anything that causes the number of assists to reset other than scoring a goal? It seems like you can just pass back and forth and never have it reset until you score.

[Chi Meson]

Follow up to that,
Can the balls that begin in auto be used to score truss points before they score a goal?

[Snapshot]

Originally Posted by Chi Meson

Follow up to that,
Can the balls that begin in auto be used to score truss points before they score a goal?

Based off the scoring diagram on page 18, it seems like it might.

[Jhultink]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

ASSISTS count as part of a CYCLE. A CYCLE begins when the the PEDESTAL lights up.

3.1.2

And the pedestal doesn't light up until all 3 balls are off the field right? So if you can's score autonomous you get to become a goalie...

[magnets]

So, what happens if a robot doesn't work, and it's got a ball in it (from beginning of auto let's say), no points for the alliance?

[Chi Meson]

Originally Posted by Jhultink

And the pedestal doesn't light up until all 3 balls are off the field right? So if you can's score autonomous you get to become a goalie...

All 3 or however many an alliance chooses to start with, including, zero.

[Snapshot]

What if a team cannot loose possession of a ball though? Does that mean the alliance can never start a cycle?

EDIT: Nevermind, someone just beat me to asking this.