Aerial Assist Discussion Thread

[cjl2625]

Originally Posted by UnTrustedTruss

Watch this video from about two minutes in and on. You may have missed this line but it is so important.

"We are doing this a bit differently this year, making changes from kickoff to championships this year"

That's pretty interesting... Woody says they're making changes throughout the season to "keep things fresh"

I think you might actually be on to something...

[Jack_O]

Sorry if this has already been asked. Do assists have to go in sequential order? For example: Normally the passing would be done blue zone to white zone to red zone. Can this be bypassed by doing a long shot from the blue zone to the red zone?

[MetalJacket]

Originally Posted by Jack_O

Sorry if this has already been asked. Do assists have to go in sequential order? For example: Normally the passing would be done blue zone to white zone to red zone. Can this be bypassed by doing a long shot from the blue zone to the red zone?

From the Manual ...

ASSIST: an event worth bonus points that occurs when a unique ALLIANCE ROBOT POSSESSES the ALLIANCE’S BALL in a unique ZONE (i.e. red, white, or blue ZONE) during a CYCLE.

So theoretically yes, shooting from blue to red would be an assist as the ball is in a unique zone provided the robot that picks it up is not the same one that shot it (it too must be unique). That would only be your second assist however (with the first being the introduction of the ball by the human player) so you would need to pass to a different player in white to get the third assist. At least that is my interpretation of the rule's wording

[WakingTheFallen]

...Might it be legal to shoot the ball over the truss and catch it YOURSELF for the 20 points?

[MetalJacket]

Originally Posted by WakingTheFallen

...Might it be legal to shoot the ball over the truss and catch it YOURSELF for the 20 points?

This was discussed a little earlier - the ball must have been thrown over the truss by an alliance partner to get the catch bonus

[Jack_O]

The manual states that you have to pass to a partner. I only asked my question for cases where the third robot is disabled. Thanks for confirming my suspicions,

[WakingTheFallen]

Thanks for the clarification.

[UnTrustedTruss]

Originally Posted by cjl2625

That's pretty interesting... Woody says they're making changes throughout the season to "keep things fresh"

I think you might actually be on to something...

Think it is worth making a speculation topic for? All the teams I have talked to are suspecting similar, that truss is just too beefy to be simply a rope. The video itself even shows people climbing it, along with the fact that the interior struts (the angler things) are separated much more wide then in a normal truss.

[cjl2625]

Yeah, make a topic. This actually seems pretty plausible

[mcchev]

Originally Posted by shades23

Wait so what is the max amount of points you can score in a single run?

You can get 3 robots with possession, throw it over the middle bar, have a robot catch it, and score for 60 points.

[chrisfl]

Originally Posted by WeJohnFriedIt

Yeah I was also surprised that there's no cooperative task to finish with. Go figure.

The whole game is a cooperative task

[Bryce Paputa]

Originally Posted by UnTrustedTruss

A Mid-season added endgame challenge seems so plausible right now.

This. We're saving 20 pounds in our design for it.

[Coin3]

Originally Posted by chrisfl

The whole game is a cooperative task

He may have meant a coopertitive (coopertition-based) task.

[AWB]

What if i'm in the red zone and shoot the ball over the truss to a robot in the white zone? 30 points or foul?

[petrokid96]

Originally Posted by UnTrustedTruss

[size="1"]We had a hang last year? We did, but it sucked, those pyramids were $@#$ near impossible to climb to the top, everyone just did level one holds. They were a major disappointment.

sets aside tinfoil hat

This I find as Extremely false because my team, Greater Rochester Robotics (G.R.R.) 340, on practice day at Finger Lakes Regional we showed a full 30 point climb and we preformed that almost every match after that including at the Buckeye Regional ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyq0w7H76IU ). We also saw at least 2 other teams do a 30 point climb at Buckeye.