YOU Predict the Average Match Score of 2014's Week 1 Regionals/Districts

[donkehote]

I think average scores for week 1 quals will be in the 80-100 point range, elims getting closer to the 150 point range.

everyones gonna get 15 points in auto, and so long as one robot brings the ball for the other 2 to push around for a second (in their own zones of course, making for 31 point low goals) it shouldn't be hard to get 2-3 cycles in. Possession just requires multiple contacts with the ball, so passing is very easy.

[asid61]

I think 50 points for elims is pretty conservative. That's like 1-2 goals per match. For qualifiers, maybe 50-60 points, for elims, I'm thinking 120+.

[Qcom]

Originally Posted by Nathan Streeter

For the most part I think defense will *really* slow alliances down... If you can make life really difficult for the robot that has the ball, the whole alliance's progress is essentially stopped.

This is a huge concern on my part. I think that a box on wheels with a decent amount of torque could really put a wrench in some alliances' plans.

Personally, I'm thinking about 50 points a match for quals, 75-100 for elemination.

[Joseph1825]

I might be being too optimistic here but I think a well constructed alliance can score about 290. (5 cycles of 50 points + ~40 points from autonomous) I would guess an average score for eliminations will be 175. (4 cycles of 40 + 15 from auto) However, in qualifications when you have to work with random partners I think the average score will go down to 95.

[Caleb Sykes]

Normally, in AUTO, I predict that the average robot scores 0. This is to safeguard myself from overestimating (if I were to put a real number on AUTO, I would say 10, but certainly not anything above 15 as some are predicting). I will stick to that trend here. Just look to 2008 to see that something as simple as driving forward should not be considered a "gimme". Also, people seem to forget that some of your robots might be playing as a goalie on the other side, meaning that they will not get those 5 movement points.

After AUTO, teams will spend on average the first 30 seconds scoring the balls that they missed in AUTO, most of these in the low goal. This means that the average alliance still has 0 points*. After that, alliances will have 2 cycles, 1 30 point cycle and 1 20 point cycle, for a total qualification average of 50 points.

*For all intents and purposes, the low goal is worth 0 points.

[Rynocorn]

I will predict that the average alliance will score 35 in prelims and then 60 in finals. I would guess higher, but the scores always seem to be lower than someone would typically exspect. Also defence will probably prevent a high scoring game. (I'll add 10 points to prelims and 30 to finals if there is an endgame, even without knowing it )

[TheFrozenSlink]

Originally Posted by Zaque

what happened to the other 1/4 of the cycles?

I think he's assuming the cycle doesn't get finished.

[Iaquinto.Joe]

In Michigan? Averaging easily over 50 points, but will vary wildly per match based on FMS RNG in quals. Elims will see consistent 150+ by the top 4 alliances and 100+ by the lower 4 alliances.

On second thought there are over 90 new teams in michigan this year. Anywhere from 35-50 points still is reasonable, but slightly less than my initial estimate.

[cadandcookies]

One of the things I like most about this game is that it's going to have super low scores in qualification, but in elimination I think we'll see some (comparatively) ridiculously high scores.

My initial impulse is in qualifications:
All robots drive forward (15 points)
One robot is able to throw the ball over the truss (10 points per cycle)
One robot is able to herd the ball into a goal (1 point)
If these are distinct robots, another 10 points for assists

That would equate to (optimistically) 21 points per cycle.

Based on that, I'd say 3-4 cycles (63-84 points).

Add on the auto modes, and we have 78-99 points per qualification match.

Multiply that by 50%, and average match scores are 35-50 points in qualification.

That being said, I think this year more than any others will have the potential to surprise everybody with high scoring average matches.

[Qcom]

Originally Posted by inkling16

Also, people seem to forget that some of your robots might be playing as a goalie on the other side, meaning that they will not get those 5 movement points.

I'm confused, are you saying that some people will start their bots on the opposing alliance's goalie zone? Because you cannot have your robot pass the truss until tele-op, as per G15.

[Caleb Sykes]

Originally Posted by Qcom

I'm confused, are you saying that some people will start their bots on the opposing alliance's goalie zone? Because you cannot have your robot pass the truss until tele-op, as per G15.

3.2.2.1 G4
When placed on the FIELD, each ROBOT must be:
A. in compliance with all ROBOT rules (i.e. have passed Inspection),
B. confined to its STARTING CONFIGURATION,
C. entirely within their GOALIE ZONE, or
entirely within the white ZONE and between the TRUSS and their GOALS, and
D. fully supported by the floor.

3.2.4.1 G15
During AUTO,
A. a ROBOT starting in the white ZONE may not cross fully beyond the TRUSS
B. a ROBOT starting in its GOALIE ZONE must remain in contact with the carpet in its GOALIE ZONE.

You are correct in your understanding of robots that begin in the white ZONE, but robots may also begin in the GOALIE ZONE. These robots would be ineligible for the movement points.

[Daniel_LaFleur]

Wk1 winning scores:
Seeding average: 25 points
Elim average: 65 points

Einstein winner: 200+ points

and for my bold prediction:
1 match at IRI will exceed 450 points

[Qcom]

Originally Posted by inkling16

You are correct in your understanding of robots that begin in the white ZONE, but robots may also begin in the GOALIE ZONE. These robots would be ineligible for the movement points.

I realized that when the new Team Update was released, my bad.

[thursam]

Qual: 60
Elim: 90

I feel like qualification scores will be low/mid, as stated above, but as the matches go on and people can see and experience the game, the scores will get higher (but probably not by too much more.)

I also feel that, by eliminations, the scores will reach a peak of anywhere from 90 - 120 because the top eight teams will have a choice of their alliance partners, so they could - essentially - formulate the 'dream team.' And if they do have the 'dream team', then the points may be even higher.

[lethc]

Originally Posted by donkehote

everyones gonna get 15 points in auto

How do you figure? I think it's safe to say that the 5 points for driving forward are a given, but you're assuming that everyone has a high goal shooter. After a few days of browsing Chief Delphi, I'd say that this is not the case.