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Re: Mecanum vs Omni vs KOP wheels

There are plenty of wheel options out there. Consider what your design priorities are, and then select wheels to match them.
http://www.andymark.com/Wheel-s/229.htm
http://www.vexrobotics.com/vexpro/wheels-and-hubs
http://banebots.com/c/WHB
http://www.robotmarketplace.com/prod...eels_main.html

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You don't need 6. You can do it with 4.


You can "do it" with 3, actually. Assuming by "do it" you mean transverse in two different axes independent of any frame rotation.

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Re: Mecanum vs Omni vs KOP wheels

Honestly, for this game I can't think of a good reason to not use the KOP or some other high-traction wheel. Since opponent robots can't "possess" your ball, they'll defend by pushing around your robot. If you have high-traction wheels you won't get pushed around very much, but with mecanum's or omni's you'll be stuck on the wrong side of the field. Our team's driver last year was able to keep two mecanum bots on the wrong side of the field single-handedly for about half the match!! Very amusing to watch, certainly frustrating for the drivers of the mecanum bots.
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Re: Mecanum vs Omni vs KOP wheels

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Honestly, for this game I can't think of a good reason to not use the KOP or some other high-traction wheel. Since opponent robots can't "possess" your ball, they'll defend by pushing around your robot. If you have high-traction wheels you won't get pushed around very much, but with mecanum's or omni's you'll be stuck on the wrong side of the field. Our team's driver last year was able to keep two mecanum bots on the wrong side of the field single-handedly for about half the match!! Very amusing to watch, certainly frustrating for the drivers of the mecanum bots.
The reason I'm in favor of mecanum is to catch the ball because it will allow you to maneuver to the ball easier than tank would. It will also help you chase down balls faster if your alliance partner is an inaccurate passer than tank would.
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Re: Mecanum vs Omni vs KOP wheels

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The reason I'm in favor of mecanum is to catch the ball because it will allow you to maneuver to the ball easier than tank would. It will also help you chase down balls faster if your alliance partner is an inaccurate passer than tank would.
Your first point seems valid. I'm not so sure about the second.
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Re: Mecanum vs Omni vs KOP wheels

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The reason I'm in favor of mecanum is to catch the ball because it will allow you to maneuver to the ball easier than tank would. It will also help you chase down balls faster if your alliance partner is an inaccurate passer than tank would.
Imagine playing Rebound Rumble with the goals moving. It's way harder. A catcher should be stationary, make it easy for your thrower to hit you. There should be no trouble making a very consistent ball-launcher.

Sure, you may be able to adjust to catch a ball on your practice field, but when you get pushed across the field for 2:20 you won't be a very effective catcher.
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Re: Mecanum vs Omni vs KOP wheels

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Our team's driver last year was able to keep two mecanum bots on the wrong side of the field single-handedly for about half the match!! Very amusing to watch, certainly frustrating for the drivers of the mecanum bots.
That was on a field with Pyramids vs. an open field.
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