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Re: Robot in 3 Days Robot Reveals

Now the GDC can issue a rule change that will make some of what they did invalid, like adding a End Game that can not be added to any of these bots. I will admit that these look very good, but am not sure that putting out something like this for teams to copy is how we need to be approaching this.
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Now the GDC can issue a rule change that will make some of what they did invalid, like adding a End Game that can not be added to any of these bots. I will admit that these look very good, but am not sure that putting out something like this for teams to copy is how we need to be approaching this.
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I will admit that these look very good, but am not sure that putting out something like this for teams to copy is how we need to be approaching this.
Oh...are we starting this again?

It's such a shame that now there will be video online showing teams how to pick up a large inflatable ball and throw it over a bar...

These are meant to inspire teams and give them a theoretical starting point so that they might improve on the ideas showcased and ultimately build a more competitive robot. Much like the people who built the Space Shuttle took the ideas used in Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo and applied them to their own design process.
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Oh...are we starting this again?

It's such a shame that now there will be video online for teams showing teams how to pick up a large inflatable ball and throw it over a bar...

These are meant to be a way to inspire teams and give them a theoretical starting point so that they might improve on the ideas showcased and ultimately build a more competitive robot. Much like the people who built the Space Shuttle took the ideas used in Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo and applied them in their own design process.

Yes! Well said. Teams are also using help from 2008. Just like how teams in 2012 referred to 2006. and 2011 to 2007.
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Re: Robot in 3 Days Robot Reveals

O-RYON obviously had more time then they needed because they had more lights then a Christmas tree in New York Times Square on Christmas eve
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Now the GDC can issue a rule change that will make some of what they did invalid, like adding a End Game that can not be added to any of these bots. I will admit that these look very good, but am not sure that putting out something like this for teams to copy is how we need to be approaching this.
Somehow I think the organization that promotes coopertition and collaboration is not going to design their game around the destruction of a valuable resource to teams. And even if they do defy their own principles, Ri3d will most likely design a hanging system and show that to teams. What is the GDC going to do then, add more end game objectives?
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Re: Robot in 3 Days Robot Reveals

I was honestly most impressed with Team O-Ryon(spelling?)'s robot. It played all aspects of the game relatively well, and excelled at most. Strong drive and pickup, scored 1 pointers easily, could truss shot and 10 point shot (from up close) and catch if the pass was on target. Not to mention one hell of a lights display. I think they clearly took a more innovative path than the simple roller and catapult design. Add a simple goalie stick to their robot and they could do everything in this game.
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I was honestly most impressed with Team O-Ryon(spelling?)'s robot. It played all aspects of the game relatively well, and excelled at most. Strong drive and pickup, scored 1 pointers easily, could truss shot and 10 point shot (from up close) and catch if the pass was on target. Not to mention one hell of a lights display. I think they clearly took a more innovative path than the simple roller and catapult design. Add a simple goalie stick to their robot and they could do everything in this game.
Agreed. O-Ryon won this challenge. This "point guard" bot could rank very high by their ability to quickly possess the ball and drop it off for an assist. Getting a one point shot near game's end is defintely less risky than missing a high shot that rebounds toward mid field.

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While i voted ri3d 1.0 for what seemed like the most consistent robot there, I really liked BOOM. DONE.'s unique intake idea and their catapult system was quite different from the others'. Their meccanum drive train was also something that the others didn't do, and i'd love to see if it helps with their unique intake.
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Can't you only have 6 CIM's on the robot? Why do some of the robots have 8 CIM's in their drive base?
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Can't you only have 6 CIM's on the robot? Why do some of the robots have 8 CIM's in their drive base?
They had 4 cims and 4 mini cims. You can have a total of 6 cims and 4 mini cims on the robot.
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Can't you only have 6 CIM's on the robot? Why do some of the robots have 8 CIM's in their drive base?
These crews built their robots with the intention of not sticking to the rule limitations. If you noticed, they used illegal electronics too.
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These crews built their robots with the intention of not sticking to the rule limitations. If you noticed, they used illegal electronics too.
What are you talking about? They specifically state in their videos that they use all completely FRC legal parts, and follow all the rules... What is the point of doing this if they break the rules?

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Re: Robot in 3 Days Robot Reveals

Not only have these three/four robots served a great service to the community in terms of process and specific designs, but I wonder if Boom Done stumbled upon a way to recruit/train new mentors. According to one of the interviews, nearly all of Boom Done had no FIRST experience before Saturday. I would think having a super intense 3 day build season with a legendary FIRST mentor would be pretty inspiring and serve as an invaluable FIRST training for a professional engineer. I'd be curious to hear if any of their team decides to mentor a FIRST team after their three day build season.
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What are you talking about? They specifically state in their videos that they use all completely FRC legal parts, and follow all the rules... What is the point of doing this if they break the rules?

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I should have been clearer.

Mechanically speaking, most, if not all, of the parts are legal and designed for implementation on FRC bots.

If you noticed though in Ri3D 1.0, they used a Sasquatch robot controller as their primary device for robot control, which is not allowed in the rules. They also used illegal electronics on last year's bot as well.

Anyway, this really isn't too relevant, as the mechanical designs and their implementations are perfectly legal.
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