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Team UPDATE - 2014-01-10
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Re: Team UPDATE - 2014-01-10
"If a BALL becomes stuck on the TRUSS, the Head Referee will shake the TRUSS to free the BALL. In this situation, the ALLIANCE will not earn TRUSS points. While shaking the TRUSS, the Head Referee will take care not to impact gameplay of the other ALLIANCE."
New criteria for head referees, be very strong. On the serious note, if the truss can be shaken enough so that a stuck ball will be freed, what precautions will be made to prevent the truss from falling down if a larger force was applied (ie. robot with ball extending above 62in)? Also, what happens if the ball stays stuck for an extended period of time or even the whole match? (#trussfall)(#trussfail) |
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Re: Team UPDATE - 2014-01-10
Good solution, the best way, to do this.
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Agreed. This season is 2/2 in terms of good team updates so far!
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Re: Team UPDATE - 2014-01-10
Great solution for a ball stuck during teleop.
However I'm not sure I understand what this means at the end of autonomous, likely for balls "stuck" in a non-moving robot. More interestingly how about two balls stuck in multiple non-moving robots? |
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Re: Team UPDATE - 2014-01-10
I speculate that the truss is not so rigid that it will not vibrate, so a ball can be dislodged using that vibration, but it not so compliant that it will fall over.
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Re: Team UPDATE - 2014-01-10
Question: does this mean that teams will suspend work on their automatic ball eject systems?
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I think FIRST has accounted for the occasional failure or communication error with this update. The teams now have to hold up their end of the bargain, and design their robots so this does not happen often.
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Re: Team UPDATE - 2014-01-10
pertaining to the opposing alliance getting your ball stuck: "If the stuck BALL is freed, that ball will be considered FIELD debris."
Is this ball going to be handled the same way as a dead ball? |
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Re: Team UPDATE - 2014-01-10
Field debris: Better known as out of play permanently. See Section 3.1.2.
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Re: Team UPDATE - 2014-01-10
It appears that the team update was revised. Here's the new stuff:
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Re: Team UPDATE - 2014-01-10
So by the terms of possession, if the robot is immobile with an opponents ball, is it considered possession since the robot is not moving? If it is considered possession, then that means an immobile robot with a ball on an allied robot is also considered possession meaning any robot, mobile or not, that is fully supporting a ball is considered in possession of the ball. Unless of course an immobile robot with a ball on it is not considered possession. Right?
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