Team Update 1-17-2014

[Sparky3D]

Originally Posted by dodar

Wrong. If an opponents ball lands in your robot and you stop moving and you were not purposefully catching the ball, then you are not shielding the ball purposefully from the other alliance.

If the other alliance's ball happens to land inside your robot and it was inadvertent, if you stop moving immediately then it would seem that you would not be penalized.

I'd recommend taking a really close look at the definition of trapping:

“trapping” (overt isolation OR holding one or more BALLS against a FIELD element or ROBOT in an attempt to shield them). -emphasis on the first OR is mine

The way I read that rule, overt isolation of the opponents ball is trapping; and catching it and leaving it inside your robot would be pretty "overt isolation".

Just my $0.02

[notmattlythgoe]

Originally Posted by Sparky3D

I'd recommend taking a really close look at the definition of trapping:

“trapping” (overt isolation OR holding one or more BALLS against a FIELD element or ROBOT in an attempt to shield them). -emphasis on the first OR is mine

The way I read that rule, overt isolation of the opponents ball is trapping; and catching it and leaving it inside your robot would be pretty "overt isolation".

Just my $0.02

I stand corrected. I still thought it would have been a penalty anyway since that is the intent of the rule in the first place.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by Sparky3D

I'd recommend taking a really close look at the definition of trapping:

“trapping” (overt isolation OR holding one or more BALLS against a FIELD element or ROBOT in an attempt to shield them). -emphasis on the first OR is mine

The way I read that rule, overt isolation of the opponents ball is trapping; and catching it and leaving it inside your robot would be pretty "overt isolation".

Just my $0.02

The "or" you are referencing is between Overt Isolation and Holding; its not 2 different definitions. They are both still being modified by purposefully doing so. Over Isolation means that you are being obvious in keeping the ball away from the other alliance.

[indubitably]

Originally Posted by dodar

The "or" you are referencing is between Overt Isolation and Holding; its not 2 different definitions. They are both still being modified by purposefully doing so. Over Isolation means that you are being obvious in keeping the ball away from the other alliance.

Intent plays no role in possession.

Read G12

A BALL that becomes unintentionally lodged on a ROBOT will be considered POSSESSED by the ROBOT. It is important to design your ROBOT so that it is impossible to inadvertently or intentionally POSSESS an opponent’s BALL.