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Exclamation We Need Serious Robot Help!

Our robot doesn't drive at all! I'd give more details, but there are too many to list! Ask me any question you want that could help you understand what is wrong with our robot! We're in the workshop right now, so we can try anything now on our robot that could help it roll! Please help us!
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Our robot doesn't drive at all! I'd give more details, but there are too many to list! Ask me any question you want that could help you understand what is wrong with our robot! We're in the workshop right now, so we can try anything now on our robot that could help it roll! Please help us!
Programming language?? post code

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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

You should probably list your setup, the things you've tried, and the exact problems you are currently running into (more specific than "It won't drive!!!").
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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

Pictures are good too.
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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

What color are the lights on your motors?

Have you reimaged your cRIO this year?

Is everything correctly wired into the PD board?

Does the driver station indicate that you are connected to your robot?
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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

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Programming language?? post code

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We program in Labview. I attached pictures from the three VIs, but I'm not able to give you pictures of the wiring.
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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

What motor controllers are you using?

Is the PWM seated in all of them properly.

Does your drivetrain spin fairly easily without the motors?

Is your digital sidecar properly powered?

Are your motors trying to fight each other in the gearbox?
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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

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What color are the lights on your motors?

Have you reimaged your cRIO this year?

Is everything correctly wired into the PD board?

Does the driver station indicate that you are connected to your robot?
The colors on the Talons are the same (orange), but two flash and two are solid. No, we haven't reimaged our cRIO this year. Everything is corretly wired on the PD board. The driver station says that we are connected to the robot. Anymore questions?
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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

In the first VI your "Open 2 Motor" VIs are set to rely on a single PWM. That might not be the only problem, but it could cause issues later on.
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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

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What motor controllers are you using?

Is the PWM seated in all of them properly.

Does your drivetrain spin fairly easily without the motors?

Is your digital sidecar properly powered?

Are your motors trying to fight each other in the gearbox?
The PWMs are properly seated. We can still turn the drivetrain by ourselves. How can we tell if the DSC is properly powered (only 2 out of 3 LEDs are on). No, our motors aren't fighting against each other. Does that help?
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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

when you press forward on the joystick(s) what does your robot do?
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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

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The PWMs are properly seated. We can still turn the drivetrain by ourselves. How can we tell if the DSC is properly powered (only 2 out of 3 LEDs are on). No, our motors aren't fighting against each other. Does that help?
I told you how to in your 2nd thread.

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I suspect that both this problem, and your previous talon problem both have the same root cause, not properly powering the Digital Sidecar.

Remove the DB-37 cable from the digital sidecar and verify that all 3 power LEDs on the Digital Sidecar are brightly lit. If they aren't, make sure the digital sidecar is powered from a 20amp circuit from the PDB.
By creating 3 different threads, and not following the advice in previous threads, you're making it harder to help and take longer to get to the root cause.
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Re: We Need Serious Robot Help!

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In the first VI your "Open 2 Motor" VIs are set to rely on a single PWM. That might not be the only problem, but it could cause issues later on.
It's because, physically, they are. Go to http://wpilib.screenstepslive.com/s/...control-system and do a ctrl+f to search for "4 Controllers - PWM Cables".
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when you press forward on the joystick(s) what does your robot do?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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I told you how to in your 2nd thread.



By creating 3 different threads, and not following the advice in previous threads, you're making it harder to help and take longer to get to the root cause.
I followed your advice, but it still doesn't work.
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