Go to Post If they don't treat Dave nicely, he may just keep his big red ball, and not share with rest of us. - Barry Bonzack [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > Other > Chit-Chat
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-01-2014, 17:39
hyprvx's Avatar
hyprvx hyprvx is offline
Registered User
AKA: Devon
FRC #2151 (Monty Pythons)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Rookie Year: 2014
Location: Forest Park
Posts: 22
hyprvx is an unknown quantity at this point
I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

My laptop is a CR-48 from Google's Pilot Program for Chromebooks, and I haven't bothered to upgrade the SSD from 16GB yet. As a result, I need to use an OS that has a minimal footprint. I've tried Ubuntu, but even that left me with only 9GB of space after all essentials were installed. I heard about Haiku (http://www.haiku-os.org/ ) and decided to give it a try.

Pros:
-Minimal footprint, barely a gigabyte
-Fast
-Free
-Excellent rebirth of BeOS (http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS/ )
-Highly customizable
-Includes lots of software

Cons:
-Not all hardware supported (I've noticed that my trackpad, webcam, and bluetooth aren't 100% if at all supported)
-Early alpha stage (Currently on R1 Alpha 4.1)
-Lacking major software support (Latest port of Firefox is a port of version 3.22)
-No user accounts or password (I got around this by using PLoP boot manager (http://plop.at/ )

I really like Haiku, and I'd love to continue using it. But the lack of a modern web browser, and pretty much a lot of software in general, really turns me off about it. I don't use this laptop for much outside, however, mostly just playing old DOS games in DOSBox or listening to some music or lightweight web browsing (Works great on ChiefDelphi and the FRC Q&A portal).

This is what it's like to use an unknown operating system. Are there any of you like me, using Haiku or something else?
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-01-2014, 18:55
Ether's Avatar
Ether Ether is offline
systems engineer (retired)
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 1969
Location: US
Posts: 8,098
Ether has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond repute
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by hyprvx View Post
I've tried Ubuntu, but even that left me with only 9GB of space after all essentials were installed.
Try Puppy Linux, version Precise 5.7.1 (156Meg iso) or version Slacko 5.6 (165Meg iso). Install a complete development system (~150Meg iso) and build all the apps you want from source.


Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 30-01-2014, 19:01
maths222 maths222 is offline
FTC FTA
AKA: Jacob Burroughs
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: United States
Posts: 148
maths222 is a splendid one to beholdmaths222 is a splendid one to beholdmaths222 is a splendid one to beholdmaths222 is a splendid one to beholdmaths222 is a splendid one to beholdmaths222 is a splendid one to beholdmaths222 is a splendid one to behold
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

Puppy even has support for ubuntu (precise) /slackware (slako) packages.
__________________
--Jacob
Illinois FTC FTA
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 31-01-2014, 06:11
Foster Foster is offline
Engineering Program Management
VRC #8081 (STEMRobotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Rookie Year: 2005
Location: Delaware
Posts: 1,393
Foster has a reputation beyond reputeFoster has a reputation beyond reputeFoster has a reputation beyond reputeFoster has a reputation beyond reputeFoster has a reputation beyond reputeFoster has a reputation beyond reputeFoster has a reputation beyond reputeFoster has a reputation beyond reputeFoster has a reputation beyond reputeFoster has a reputation beyond reputeFoster has a reputation beyond repute
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ether View Post
Try Puppy Linux, version Precise 5.7.1 (156Meg iso) or version Slacko 5.6 (165Meg iso). Install a complete development system (~150Meg iso) and build all the apps you want from source.


There was a thread about Linux distros about 18 months ago, search is your friend. I have a system with Puppy on it, and it works well. Remember the RaspPi people are 4gb cards, so lots of small distros will work.
__________________
Foster - VEX Delaware - 17 teams -- Chief Roboteer STEMRobotics.org
2010 - Mentor of the Year - VEX Clean Sweep World Championship
2006-2016, a decade of doing VEX, time really flies while having fun
Downingtown Area Robotics Web site and VEXMen Team Site come see what we can do for you.
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-02-2014, 16:02
JohnFogarty's Avatar
JohnFogarty JohnFogarty is offline
Trapped under a pile of MECANUMS :P
AKA: @doctorfogarty
FTC #11444 (Garnet Squadron) & FRC#1102 (M'Aiken Magic)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: SC
Posts: 1,579
JohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond reputeJohnFogarty has a reputation beyond repute
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

Slax is so small it can run on a 256 MB flash drive.
__________________
John Fogarty
2010 FTC World Championship Winner & 2013-2014 FRC Orlando Regional Winner
Mentor FRC Team 1102 M'Aiken Magic
"Head Bot Coach" FTC Team 11444 Garnet Squadron
Former Student & Mentor FLL 1102, FTC 1102 & FTC 3864, FRC 1772, FRC 5632
2013 FTC World Championship Guest Speaker
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-02-2014, 16:39
Ether's Avatar
Ether Ether is offline
systems engineer (retired)
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 1969
Location: US
Posts: 8,098
Ether has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond repute
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnFogarty View Post
Slax is so small it can run on a 256 MB flash drive.
What about apps?


Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-02-2014, 21:37
wesleyac's Avatar
wesleyac wesleyac is offline
Registered User
AKA: Wesley Aptekar-Cassels
FRC #1678
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Rookie Year: 2013
Location: Davis, CA
Posts: 52
wesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to behold
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

I use Linux myself (Arch), but the highly unknown part of my computing is my window manager: Awesome. It's a small, configurable tiling WM.

That's why whem people talk about "linux," unless they are talking about the terminal, I will be thinking something very different.

I recommend that you install linux. Something small and light, like $@#$@#$@#$@# Small Linux, Tiny Core, or Puppy. That will problably do everything that Hiku does, and more.

Just my $0.02
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by The programming team
Define "works."
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-02-2014, 21:42
Ether's Avatar
Ether Ether is offline
systems engineer (retired)
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 1969
Location: US
Posts: 8,098
Ether has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond repute
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesleyac View Post
I recommend that you install linux. Something small and light, like $@#$@#$@#$@# Small Linux, Tiny Core,
What about apps?


Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2014, 02:32
wesleyac's Avatar
wesleyac wesleyac is offline
Registered User
AKA: Wesley Aptekar-Cassels
FRC #1678
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Rookie Year: 2013
Location: Davis, CA
Posts: 52
wesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to behold
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ether View Post
What about apps?


Build from source, unless there is a package manager available (I think there is a package manager of some sort in puppy.).
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by The programming team
Define "works."
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2014, 09:24
Ether's Avatar
Ether Ether is offline
systems engineer (retired)
no team
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Rookie Year: 1969
Location: US
Posts: 8,098
Ether has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond reputeEther has a reputation beyond repute
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesleyac View Post
Build from source,
Does Tiny Core come with a development system? does Small Linux?


Quote:
Originally Posted by wesleyac View Post
(I think there is a package manager of some sort in puppy.).
Yes there is. And one of those packages is a complete development system.


Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 04-02-2014, 14:06
Anupam Goli's Avatar
Anupam Goli Anupam Goli is offline
PCH Q&A co-founder/Scouting Mentor
AKA: noops
FRC #1648 (G3 Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Rookie Year: 2008
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 1,242
Anupam Goli has a reputation beyond reputeAnupam Goli has a reputation beyond reputeAnupam Goli has a reputation beyond reputeAnupam Goli has a reputation beyond reputeAnupam Goli has a reputation beyond reputeAnupam Goli has a reputation beyond reputeAnupam Goli has a reputation beyond reputeAnupam Goli has a reputation beyond reputeAnupam Goli has a reputation beyond reputeAnupam Goli has a reputation beyond reputeAnupam Goli has a reputation beyond repute
I've installed debian on 20 gb hard drives, and if you're comfortable playing around in terminal, you can use very simple window managers like fluxbox and install only the bare essentials on your system. I think the minimum space needed for debian is 2 gb with only command line
__________________
Team 1002: 2008-2012
Team 1648: 2012-2016
Georgia Tech Class of 2016
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2014, 06:28
dongimin2 dongimin2 is offline
Registered User
FRC #4817
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Singapore
Posts: 1
dongimin2 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

I use Ubuntu 13.10 on my rMBP as a daily driver.

I've used other Linux distros here and there, but almost all of them have been Debian based.

I'd like to ask: what do you all Linux users use as your window manager or desktop environment? I use Awesome WM.
Reply With Quote
  #13   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 05-02-2014, 10:49
hyprvx's Avatar
hyprvx hyprvx is offline
Registered User
AKA: Devon
FRC #2151 (Monty Pythons)
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Rookie Year: 2014
Location: Forest Park
Posts: 22
hyprvx is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dongimin2 View Post
I'd like to ask: what do you all Linux users use as your window manager or desktop environment? I use Awesome WM.
Right now, I'm using the version of Xfce included with Xubuntu 13.10. It's fairly lightweight, and I like the menu system dropped in Ubuntu 11.04. I have a "dock" on the right of my screen with my most used apps, like Firefox, VLC, and the likes, and I also have a few utilities there, such as a CPU meter and a weather gadget. I also have a button to open the file manager, and quick controls to lock the screen, log out, or power off the computer. Small, but quick and useful. I've tried other window environments, but I don't know of many outside of KDE, Xfce, GNOME2, GNOME3, and Unity. I'd like to give Cinnamon a try, but I managed to break an install with that, so that kind of turned me away.
Reply With Quote
  #14   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 06-02-2014, 02:18
wesleyac's Avatar
wesleyac wesleyac is offline
Registered User
AKA: Wesley Aptekar-Cassels
FRC #1678
Team Role: Programmer
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Rookie Year: 2013
Location: Davis, CA
Posts: 52
wesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to beholdwesleyac is a splendid one to behold
Re: I use a highly unknown operating system. Are there others like me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dongimin2 View Post
I'd like to ask: what do you all Linux users use as your window manager or desktop environment? I use Awesome WM.
I said earlier that I used AwesomeWM, but I've started playing with Enlightenment, and so far I like it. I'm not sure if I'll go back to awesome or switch to E yet though. I love tiling WM's, but E has a lot going for it.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by The programming team
Define "works."
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:46.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi