Goalie in autonomous?

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

I think there will be one or two crazy awesome teams that are able to block shots in autonomous. At the highest level of play, you are also likely to have an alliance partner with a two ball autonomous. You would only need to block one ball for it to be worth it.

[JohnFogarty]

Before Team Update #1 our entire team wanted to become the ultimate goalie robot. We even joked about writing vision code to detect incoming balls in autonomous so that we could position ourselves/blockingmechanism in front of the incoming balls. Playing Goalie in autonomous has just as much value as scoring a ball into the high goal in autonomous, because you are preventing your opponent from scoring the same amount of points you have the potential of scoring If not more.

++Plus you just made their teleop scoring potential decrease because your opponent now much go retrieve the auto balls they missed before they can begin a cycle. Meanwhile your alliance can begin cycling right off the bat.

Playing goalie in autonomous has a lot more worth than you might think.

[faust1706]

Originally Posted by Rangel(kf7fdb)

I think there will be one or two crazy awesome teams that are able to block shots in autonomous. At the highest level of play, you are also likely to have an alliance partner with a two ball autonomous. You would only need to block one ball for it to be worth it.

2 things: how many people are going for a two ball autonomous? And how many teams are planning on detecting the presence of a goalie?

Blocking a shot in autonomous can be much more influential than the initial rejection of the 10 or 20 points. After autonomous, the team must score the ball that was blocked in order to begin their cycles.

[Rangel(kf7fdb)]

Originally Posted by faust1706

2 things: how many people are going for a two ball autonomous? And how many teams are planning on detecting the presence of a goalie?

Blocking a shot in autonomous can be much more influential than the initial rejection of the 10 or 20 points. After autonomous, the team must score the ball that was blocked in order to begin their cycles.

I would safely assume that there will be at least as many 2 ball autos as there were multi disk autos last year. Or at least close to that number. And yes blocking a shot is very powerful. That's why I would doubt some teams capable of doing this haven't thought about or considered it.

[bduddy]

I think people are underestimating in general how powerful a good goalie is. The extreme lack of game pieces in this game compared to past FRC games means that blocking a single shot is a huge advantage to an alliance, and that's not going to be all that hard to do. In particular, if you can keep one of an alliance's autonomous balls on the field, all of those truss points and assist points completely go away!

[JohnFogarty]

That statement would be correct, but there were never any assist points to be scored from the initial autonomous balls. They can't start scoring any assist points until they score all of the auto balls. Hence the advantage of keeping them from scoring it.

In effect. If you block one ball out of three during auto and continue to block that one ball from being scored in teleop. You just shut the alliance down. As basketball King James is now fondly aware, in reference to Durant. Defensive skills are everything.