Human Player

[Qbot2640]

Originally Posted by MooreteP

I cannot find a rule that says if a Blue alliance ball bounces towards a Red alliance Human Player, that they can't possess it and return it to the field in a manner that negatively affects the Blue alliance.

If this is the case, then the human player will be more important than in most past games. (See Ladder Logic, or First Frenzy for important human player roles)

I think I am starting to understand this game.

This is an interesting catch...I originally took "An ALLIANCE may not POSSESS their oponent's BALLS." to prohibit this, as "ALLIANCE" is defined in such a way to include human players, but "POSSESS" is defined pretty clearly to NOT include human player actions. I tend to agree now, that the human player could be an active defensive participant.

[GaryVoshol]

Originally Posted by Qbot2640

This is an interesting catch...I originally took "An ALLIANCE may not POSSESS their oponent's BALLS." to prohibit this, as "ALLIANCE" is defined in such a way to include human players, but "POSSESS" is defined pretty clearly to NOT include human player actions. I tend to agree now, that the human player could be an active defensive participant.

That will have to be fixed. Else there's nothing to prohibit a HP from grabbing an opponent's ball and holding it for the remainder of the match.

[EricH]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

That will have to be fixed. Else there's nothing to prohibit a HP from grabbing an opponent's ball and holding it for the remainder of the match.

True. G32 only covers deflection.

Devil's advocate on myself: An HP holding their opponents' ball is simply an extremely delayed deflection...

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

That will have to be fixed. Else there's nothing to prohibit a HP from grabbing an opponent's ball and holding it for the remainder of the match.

<G40> TEAMS may not extend any body part into the FIELD during the MATCH.
Violation: TECHNICAL FOUL.

You'd have to grab one that has left the field. That's not worth basing a strategy around, and I don't even think it's worth having a contingency plan for.

[TheMadCADer]

Originally Posted by EricH

True. G32 only covers deflection.

Devil's advocate on myself: An HP holding their opponents' ball is simply an extremely delayed deflection...

If G32 doesn't prevent it, could it be argued that the ball is "stuck" and can be declared dead? You lose Assist points, but you can still play the match.

Even then, I expect someone to Q&A this, and the GDC will make the obvious ruling. Holding the opposing alliance's ball should be a penalty.