Team 842 Testing Shots

[falconmaster]

Originally Posted by Mr. Lim

This is brilliant...

Its a lot of fun!

[yash101]

Yeah, and I think you have already scared a 1165er!

[Michael Corsetto]

This is awesome! You guys are hitting all of the shots we hope to, but without all the crazy mechanical stored energy.

Question, in your testing, how many tanks are you running with, and how many shots do you get before needing recharge? Is the compressor able to "keep up" with how fast you're taking shots? It looks like in a short time you are making some shots quickly, just curious as to how much air this shooting method requires.

Very cool, will no doubt be highly effective, and very simple!

Can always count on 842 to come up with some innovative solutions, and then share them in order to inspire the rest of us! Thanks!

-Mike

[AllenGregoryIV]

Love this setup. That last shot, should be pretty much impossible to stop and completely repeatable. That has been on our list of shots we need to have.

[Johnny]

What are the bore sizes on those cylinders? Can't tell if it's 1.5 diameter or 1 1/16. Looks identical to what we have gotten so far. Good job guys! Looks awesome!

[sergioCorral842]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

Question, in your testing, how many tanks are you running with, and how many shots do you get before needing recharge? Is the compressor able to "keep up" with how fast you're taking shots? It looks like in a short time you are making some shots quickly, just curious as to how much air this shooting method requires.

-Mike

We can shoot about 2-3 high goal shots from the middle of the field before the compressor needs to turn back on.

What are the bore sizes on those cylinders? Can't tell if it's 1.5 diameter or 1 1/16. Looks identical to what we have gotten so far. Good job guys! Looks awesome!

They are 1.5 in diameter.

[Mr. Lim]

What kind (make/model #) of solenoid are you using?

I'm assuming it's a double acting. What is the center position of the solenoid? A and B both closed? Both to Exhaust? No center position?

How are you precisely varying the timing of the pulse to the solenoid? Are you just counting cycles in the teleop periodic loop? Does that limit you to about 20ms increments? Do you need anything more precise than that?

So many questions...

This is very cool stuff.

[s_forbes]

Originally Posted by Mr. Lim

What kind (make/model #) of solenoid are you using?

I'm assuming it's a double acting. What is the center position of the solenoid? A and B both closed? Both to Exhaust? No center position?

Nope.

Here's a part number for you though (see mcmaster): 6124K511

How are you precisely varying the timing of the pulse to the solenoid? Are you just counting cycles in the teleop periodic loop? Does that limit you to about 20ms increments? Do you need anything more precise than that?

So many questions...

This is very cool stuff.

I'll let Sergio get back to you on the pulse control... I'm not sure how fast his program loop cycles.

[rai337]

Hey there, nice job you did there! Looks amazing, and very powerful
We wanted to ask a few questions:
1. What is the length of your chasis?
2. What is the length of your pistons?
3. Is there any specific reason why you put your pistons in such starting angle? Did you find that angle more effective than others?

Good Luck, and see you at the competitions!

[Ether]

Originally Posted by rai337

Is there any specific reason why you put your pistons in such starting angle?

With a motor, you use a gearbox to trade speed for torque.

With a pneu cylinder, you use leverage to trade force for speed.

[Bewizardment]

How are you guys loading the ball? Does the arm go down further?

[Team 2016]

Could this be used to pass or catch?

[nuclearnerd]

OK, we had similar size cylinders, similar sized catapult, and tanks directly connected to the cylinder ports (mechanical release - we didn't even get into large CV solenoid valves yet) and we could not make our shooter make long shots like yours. We clearly have some learning to do. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your system after build season!

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by nuclearnerd

OK, we had similar size cylinders, similar sized catapult, and tanks directly connected to the cylinder ports (mechanical release - we didn't even get into large CV solenoid valves yet) and we could not make our shooter make long shots like yours. We clearly have some learning to do. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your system after build season!

A very small difference in the geometry can cause a huge launch difference.

[matthew_martin]

So you used 1.5" bore cylinders, but what stroke did you use? We've looked at a couple ideas, but with our current configuration, ours couldn't fit.