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OK, I was excoriated for this suggestion in 2012, but was proven correct that it was possible and, apparently, reasonable. Can (and may) a robot interfere with a ball in flight by shooting a ball at it?

I'll give you the reality that there are only 10 seconds (generally) when more that two balls in play, so the strategic value of ack-ack is greatly reduced over Rebound Rumble. Is it worth interferrng?

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Is it possible? Yes. Is it worth attempting? No.
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Check with PFreivald and 1551, they might have an interesting take on this
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Best-case its a net-sum-zero strategy, so if it fits into your game plan it might be useful.

I cannot figure out how it would be genuinely useful though.
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Re: The SAM Thread

Dodgeball immediately jumped to mind.
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Best-case its a net-sum-zero strategy, so if it fits into your game plan it might be useful.

I cannot figure out how it would be genuinely useful though.
Coming out ahead in auton and locking the score. Ranking suicide in quals but could be a useful strategy if you know you've got them in auton but they can cycle faster.
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Coming out ahead in auton and locking the score. Ranking suicide in quals but could be a useful strategy if you know you've got them in auton but they can cycle faster.
I suppose so. I guess I was assuming that if you were consistently winning auton (i.e. reliable high-goal shooting) that you would always wind up with better cycle scores.

Do you really think trying to hit a ball out of the air with another ball would be better than a 2 or 3 robot defensive blockade?
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I suppose so. I guess I was assuming that if you were consistently winning auton (i.e. reliable high-goal shooting) that you would always wind up with better cycle scores.

Do you really think trying to hit a ball out of the air with another ball would be better than a 2 or 3 robot defensive blockade?
Not at all. Hitting a quickly moving target is NOT a trivial problem in the least.

You did ask for a case when it would make sense, not a case in which I would do it.
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Not at all. Hitting a quickly moving target is NOT a trivial problem in the least.

You did ask for a case when it would make sense, not a case in which I would do it.
Touche good sir!
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