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Re: Legal Pneumatic Fittings - Nipples & Elbows?

Cv is the conductance of flow. (inverse of resistance.) It is a handy way of knowing how much a particular valve or fitting flows. The easiest example is with liquid. A valve with a Cv of 1 will flow 1 Gal/Min with a pressure drop of 1 PSI. Note the unit dependance. Cv with pneumatics is more difficult because the flow is referenced to standard conditions. (Cubic feet per min at 14.47 PSI at 32 F, or 60F or 68F or 70F). Lets not get started with metric definitions. Anyway Cvs determined with consistent standards with let you know the relative size without worrying about all the illogic & math behind it. Which is what standards are all about.

Any way no matter how free flowing a valve is, the restrictions in the 1/4 OD tube restrict the flow to something acceptable to the GDC. I think that was what Al was saying. You would have to know the length of tube to calculate the exact Cv for it.
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Re: Legal Pneumatic Fittings - Nipples & Elbows?

I read the flow specification on the valve as without fittings for the exhaust ports. So a 1/8" port with no fittings ought to have a higher flow rate than the same port with fittings inserted.
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Re: Legal Pneumatic Fittings - Nipples & Elbows?

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I read the flow specification on the valve as without fittings for the exhaust ports. So a 1/8" port with no fittings ought to have a higher flow rate than the same port with fittings inserted.
well, this still strikes me as a "1080p" TV sold with only an s-video input.

thanks for the info on the Cv of tubing and fittings, based on reading CD threads about flow restriction, I had assumed past KOP solenoids were significantly* worse than tubing and fittings, but I guess not...

*maybe a Cv difference of at least 0.1, as opposed to 0.03
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Re: Legal Pneumatic Fittings - Nipples & Elbows?

Going back to the OP's question, I would suggest testing your setup with a nipple, and with the tubing. See if there is enough difference, or even good difference that would be worth risking the creation of a new rule.

One of our mentors had the same thought, and attached one of our higher Cv solenoids to an accumulator with a short brass nipple. Imagine our surprise, when the increased "performance" turned out to be detrimental to the actual performance of our catapult. Everything was promptly changed back.

Test your theory, and find out if you are just tilting at windmills with trying something that will attract attention from inspectors. You will at least satisfy your curiosity, and you may just find, as we did, that it isn't worth it.
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