What is considered a catch

[Edxu]

So from my interpretation, the new addition to "deflecting" means that the ball touches the robot, but then leaves after contact (eg. bounces in and goes out), wouldn't be considered possession.

However, wouldn't "Herding" be considered possession if the ball bounces inside the robot multiple times, as used in the definition of herding?

Therefore if the ball bounces inside the robot a few times and then bounces out, wouldn't it legally be called possession by herding, and thus catch points?