Is this solenoid legal?

[SpaceOsc]

Is this solenoid legal to use in competition in the 2013-14 season?

VALVE, 1/8 NPT, Cv=0.78, 24VDC, DOUBLE SOLENOID, 5-PORT, 2-POSITION

Link: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/...)/AVS-5221-24D

[cgmv123]

R77 clearly says what pneumatic components are and aren't allowed. R77-C specifically applies to solenoid valves.

[Chris_Ely]

It meets all of the requirements in rule R77-C, so yes, it is legal.

[FrankJ]

Yes it is legal. The nominal working pressure is 115psi so absent any other documentation you will need a secondary relief valve on the low pressure circuit per rule

[RandeJ]

Just got a response from vendor regarding max pressure. Do you think a copy of this email is good enough to pass inspection (probably) without a secondary pressure relief valve?

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Here is the technical support response to your inquiry:
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Rande,

The proof pressure for this valve is 215 psig. Anything up to this value
will not cause damage to the unit. We had to obtain this figure from the
vendor directly, so sorry we don't have any documentation.

Please advise if you need any additional information. Thank you.
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[kmusa]

Originally Posted by RandeJ

Just got a response from vendor regarding max pressure. Do you think a copy of this email is good enough to pass inspection (probably) without a secondary pressure relief valve?

:

The proof pressure for this valve is 215 psig. Anything up to this value
will not cause damage to the unit.

No. See Q241 in the Q&A - "Working Pressure is not Proof Pressure."

EDIT: While I've been frustrated over the years with the alternative reality English dictionaries that only the GDC has access to, I agree with their position on this. Proof pressure is usually a multiplier applied to working pressure, but there doesn't appear to be consensus on what that multiplier is.

[FrankJ]

So in terms of safety. It is completely & totally safe. In terms of the rules, you need a secondary relief valve. A wise robot builder complies with both.

[RandeJ]

Oh joy, but we'll put two into be safe. Thanks for all the clarifications.

[kmusa]

Originally Posted by RandeJ

Oh joy, but we'll put two in, to be safe. Thanks for all the clarifications.

Sorry to belabor this, but it's not a matter of being "safe" (in the context of satisfying the rules and/or the Inspector). The max working pressure of those solenoids is 115 PSI, which requires the second relief valve. (We also have the same issue. We mounted the additional relief valve in one of the ancillary ports on our primary regulator.)

-Karlis