2601 Three Ball Auton Teaser

[I-DOG]

Originally Posted by SenorZ

Pretty impressive. Do you have a plan on how this can be match legal?

Just imagine two different robots touching the other two balls in the starting config. Then it becomes quite legal.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by I-DOG

Just imagine two different robots touching the other two balls in the starting config. Then it becomes quite legal.

The two robots don't even have to be touching the balls.

[I-DOG]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

The two robots don't even have to be touching the balls.

Well I'm greedy and I want those bonus movement points as well.

[SenorZ]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

The two robots don't even have to be touching the balls.

Oops! Misread G5. Thanks for pointing this out.

[Mr. Van]

First of all - this is a great multi-ball auto mode!

By my reading of G5, this starting staging (in the video) would be valid only if the red ball were not touching the robot. (It's hard to tell if this is the case). Also, the only way to still have the 5 points for the other two alliance partners is to have them start in the white zone, one touching the red and the other the blue ball.

If the red ball is not touching the robot, and the alliance partners were no-shows or in the goalie zone, it would be legal.

- Mr. Van
Coach, Robodox

[NWChen]

The red ball was not touching the robot in this test.

[barn34]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

The two robots don't even have to be touching the balls.

You might want to check that. It's a bit ambiguous, but it appears that an auton ball has to be placed touching a robot to be 'loaded' on the field. The exception is for goalie bots as there ball has the option to be placed anywhere in the white zone on your side of the truss as long as it's not in direct contact with another robot already loaded (or in contact) with their own ball. So, for this to work, at least how most everyone I've talked to has interpretted it, is that one of the balls will have to be in bumper contact with another alliance partner and not in contact with the shooting robot and the other robot would be able to be placed in the goalie zone. Or, if they prefer, also in bumper contact with the other ball.

I'm not misinterpretting the rules, am I? If so, please, someone clarify that for me. Thanks!

[EricLeifermann]

Originally Posted by barn34

You might want to check that. It's a bit ambiguous, but it appears that an auton ball has to be placed touching a robot to be 'loaded' on the field. The exception is for goalie bots as there ball has the option to be placed anywhere in the white zone on your side of the truss as long as it's not in direct contact with another robot already loaded (or in contact) with their own ball. So, for this to work, at least how most everyone I've talked to has interpretted it, is that one of the balls will have to be in bumper contact with another alliance partner and not in contact with the shooting robot and the other robot would be able to be placed in the goalie zone. Or, if they prefer, also in bumper contact with the other ball.

I'm not misinterpretting the rules, am I? If so, please, someone clarify that for me. Thanks!

You can have more than 1 robot start in the goalie zone if you choose.

[TravusCubington]

but check out that kid at the end doe

much excite. #ejshuffle

[NWChen]

Originally Posted by TravusCubington

but check out that kid at the end doe

much excite. #ejshuffle

Our pneumatics expert (the guy filming) ran around the gym screaming for a solid 15 seconds after this test.

[Electronica1]

Originally Posted by Signet

Our pneumatics expert (the guy filming) ran around the gym screaming for a solid 15 seconds after this test.

Man, to bad you guys did not post a video of him also.

But besides that, awesome job on doing a 3 ball auto, my only question is how repeatable is it?

[LaScooter]

Very impressive. Any plan for the third ball rolling left/right instead of straight forward?

[themccannman]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

The two robots don't even have to be touching the balls.

Why is that?

G5:

For ROBOTS starting in the white ZONE, the TEAM may preload one (1) of their ALLIANCE’s BALLS such that the
BALL is touching their ROBOT.

Are teams allowed to *not* pre-load balls for auto when they are starting in the white zone? I didn't see anything in the rulebook saying what to do with balls in auto that aren't loaded in a robot that has reported for the match. Are they placed in the white zone wherever they please or are they removed from the field?

[EricLeifermann]

Originally Posted by themccannman

Why is that?

G5:

Are teams allowed to *not* pre-load balls for auto when they are starting in the white zone? I didn't see anything in the rulebook saying what to do with balls in auto that aren't loaded in a robot that has reported for the match. Are they placed in the white zone wherever they please or are they removed from the field?

If a team starts in the goalie zone their ball can be placed in the white zone wherever the alliance see's fit. Also you don't have to preload a ball if a team chooses not to preload a ball or start in the goalie zone the ball will be left off the field.

[Michael Corsetto]

This is awesome!

My question, how consistently can you line up those three balls to push in the right direction/roll to the desired locations? From my experience with the practice scrimmages this weekend, getting balls to settle in the perfect spot is hard, plus each ball is unique in inflation and shape. Seems like this approach is highly dynamic. Are you using any feedback to make ball acquisition more consistent?

Regardless, very impressive and unique approach to the three ball auto problem, well done!

-Mike