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Re: Team 11 - Robot Reveal 2014

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Link07 - We don't have exact numbers, but the traction was much higher than normal colsons. If you are planning on getting into pushing matches, I would recommend them.
We were able to push Beta around in practice a little bit at least
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What kind of performance gains have you seen from that? Did you try any other tread patterns?
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We are planning on trying out different patterns, but the current design should be significantly better than normal colsons.
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I intend to publish a quantitative analysis on wheel tread eventually. But for now we've found that comparatively: straight cut > diamond cut > uncut when it comes to simulated coefficient of friction in the forward direction.

Because the cut is perpendicular to the direction of motion, the forward component receives 100% of the vector's magnitude unlike the angled cuts in the diamond pattern.

The W set of VexPro wheels follow the same logic.

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Because the cut is perpendicular to the direction of motion, the forward component receives 100% of the vector's magnitude unlike the angled cuts in the diamond pattern.
Eric, don't forget to consider the traction from when the tread material bends, when the cuts are sufficiently close to each other. A diamond pattern has more cuts and thus some thinner profiles. I can't say if it is significant or not, but rubber car tires use angled siping just so they can get thinner profiles compared to perpendicular siping.
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Eric, don't forget to consider the traction from when the tread material bends, when the cuts are sufficiently close to each other. A diamond pattern has more cuts and thus some thinner profiles. I can't say if it is significant or not, but rubber car tires use angled siping just so they can get thinner profiles compared to perpendicular siping.
I absolutely agree that my explanation was an oversimplification. We intend to do MUCH more comprehensive testing. But with the data points we have so far, the straight cuts are the best performing wheels we've tried.
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Re: Team 11 - Robot Reveal 2014

Great looking robot guys. Will surely be a contender in MAR this season!
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Re: Team 11 - Robot Reveal 2014

Loving the bot this year. Should be a top contender where ever it goes. Looks like the in-house powder coating payed off because she is gorgeous.
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I'd love to say it was planned that way...
Not planned? So the song is "Black Sun" and the robot is black and yellow(sun) and this is totally coincidental? Guess it was meant to be!
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Not planned? So the song is "Black Sun" and the robot is black and yellow(sun) and this is totally coincidental? Guess it was meant to be!
After finding the song though I almost wanted to change the name of the robot
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Re: Team 11 - Robot Reveal 2014

I love it. A simple design that capitalizes on 11's strengths - strategy and execution. Paint job is beautiful too. I expect success similar to 2013 with this thing.

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Because it reminds you of your 2011 arm?
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Re: Team 11 - Robot Reveal 2014

How did you guys make that intake roller? It looks like some sort of rubber tube?
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How did you guys make that intake roller? It looks like some sort of rubber tube?
Polycarbonate round tube with sorbothane epoxied on. It's incredibly grippy but requires wiping down before every match or two - it gets dust/dirt on it and becomes more slick.

Overall, we're very happy with it.
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