Rookie Awards Ethics Question

[bduddy]

Originally Posted by DevenStonow

This situation isn't applicable in my opinion, because a team under this circumstances isn't considered a rookie team.

The team in Situation 2 generally wouldn't be considered a rookie team either, would it?

[dodar]

Originally Posted by bduddy

The team in Situation 2 generally wouldn't be considered a rookie team either, would it?

Yes it would. If I remember some history, that's kind of how 1592 was formed from 233. And we won a few rookie awards in 2005.

[TedG]

All good questions.
In my opinion, Situation 3 is the only rookie team of those examples.
**Edit.. And probably Situation 1 if they are on thier own and only getting advice from the mentor team.

I've heard of another scenario where "team A" is a rookie team (started by some experienced mentors) exists for a couple years, then looses it's school and funding. Then the experienced mentors form a new "team B" somewhere else, and are considered a rookie team and all the rookie benefits. I don't know what they brought with them such as tools, supplies, etc. I assume they started over, not sure.

What do you think about that?

I guess you could argue that anyone, experienced or not, starting a new team for a new organization, needing new funding, equipment, sponsors etc is going to struggle I think.... and should be considered a rookie team.

I haven't read what the criteria is to be a rookie team, these are just my thoughts.

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by bduddy

The team in Situation 2 generally wouldn't be considered a rookie team either, would it?

Based off the 2014 Rookie Team criteria, I would say it does as it meets the following lines:

1. A new team that starts in a school/organization/alliance that has never run an FRC team before would be considered a Rookie (note: most teams are formed within a single school, but some comprise two or more schools, or are organizations such as Scouts, Boys & Girls Clubs, home schools, etc.)

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5. If a mentor, or teacher, from an existing team leaves and starts a team at a new school, that team does qualify as a Rookie team.

6. If individual students who have been involved in a team leave that school and start a team in their new school that team also is generally considered a Rookie providing it meets condition 1, and does not involve sufficient students to be considered a version of condition 3. As a maximum, the number of students in the new team that have competed in prior teams must not exceed 5.