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Re: 2014 District Point Model Analysis

At least for New England, the winners at DCMP will move on to CMP automatically, as mentioned at the bottom of this link... http://www.nefirst.org/2014/02/04/ne...structure-faq/

I'm not sure if this is a global FIRST decision or an NEFIRST decision... I don't think it is mentioned in either this blog post (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...Kickoff-Taping) or the official points supplement (http://www3.usfirst.org/sites/defaul...ng_System.pdf).
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Re: 2014 District Point Model Analysis

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At least for New England, the winners at DCMP will move on to CMP automatically, as mentioned at the bottom of this link... http://www.nefirst.org/2014/02/04/ne...structure-faq/

I'm not sure if this is a global FIRST decision or an NEFIRST decision... I don't think it is mentioned in either this blog post (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...Kickoff-Taping) or the official points supplement (http://www3.usfirst.org/sites/defaul...ng_System.pdf).
This is the way I understand it - but I'm checking in on this. Thanks for the patience!
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Re: 2014 District Point Model Analysis

Following up - this was a misunderstanding on my part. Teams who win the District Championship do not receive auto-bids to the FIRST Championship, but as you smart people already figured out, they're going to slide to the top of the invite list because of winning anyway.

Post is updated. Life is an iterative process.
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Re: 2014 District Point Model Analysis

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Hope this clears up any confusion I've created:

1. Rookie Advantage Points
  • Teams in their first season ("Rookies") will receive 10 points
  • Teams in their second season will receive 5 points
  • Rookie season used for calculations is based on FIRST records

2. Qualification Round Performance
  • Teams will receive 2 points for each match they win
  • Teams will receive 1 point for each match they tie
  • Teams do not receive points for surrogate rounds or rounds in which they are disqualified^

3. Alliance Selection Results
  • Alliance Captains (#1 to #8) will receive points equal to 17 minus their captain number
  • Drafted teams (Picks #1 to #16) will receive points equal to 17 minus their acceptance order number
  • Points are based on positions at the conclusion of alliance selection, not at the end of qualification rounds

4. Elimination Round Performance
  • Each member of the alliance that wins a given round (quarterfinals, semifinals or finals) will receive 5 points for each match in which their robot participated
  • Backup robots will receive points in place of the replaced robot starting at the point of the replacement (even if that falls mid-round)
  • Points are only awarded to an alliance that advances. An eliminated alliance receives no points in the round in which they were eliminated even if they won a match in that series

5. Awards Received
  • Teams will receive 5 points for each judged award won
  • Teams that win the Engineering Inspiration or Rookie All-Star awards will receive an additional 3 points
  • The team that wins the Chairman's award will receive an additional 5 points
  • Only judged awards receive points (performance based awards do not receive award points)
  • Only awards presented to a team accumulate points (i.e. Deans List or awards to a person do not earn district ranking points)

Not that it would affect us in the PNW, but I'm curious how NEF will handle Legacy teams. Legacy and HOF teams get a championship ticket regardless, but does that have an effect on how many teams get sent to Champs? I'm wondering as FIRST reaches critical mass if they'll lump these teams in with the total amount of championship slots a district will get...
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Re: 2014 District Point Model Analysis

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Not that it would affect us in the PNW, but I'm curious how NEF will handle Legacy teams. Legacy and HOF teams get a championship ticket regardless, but does that have an effect on how many teams get sent to Champs? I'm wondering as FIRST reaches critical mass if they'll lump these teams in with the total amount of championship slots a district will get...
This was obviously a big deal for us. Currently, our six Legacy and HOF teams (FRC 23, 126, 151, 175, 190, 236) do not affect our 24 slots under the Unified Point Model, nor does any auto-bid team in any other district. Consequently, this also means some of them are choosing to skip the District Championship to give other teams an opportunity to play on a bigger stage, which has its good and bad points, but is understandable.
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Re: 2014 District Point Model Analysis

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5. Awards Received
  • Teams will receive 5 points for each judged award won
  • Teams that win the Engineering Inspiration or Rookie All-Star awards will receive an additional 3 points
  • The team that wins the Chairman's award will receive an additional 5 points
  • Only judged awards receive points (performance based awards do not receive award points)
  • Only awards presented to a team accumulate points (i.e. Deans List or awards to a person do not earn district ranking points)
Just to clarify the 2nd and 3rd bullets, because I was confused when I first read this: Engineering Inspiration is worth a total of 8 points (5+3) and Chairman's Award is worth a total of 10 points (5+5). The official document from FIRST lists those as the total number of points for the award, rather than saying it's a judged award (5 pts) + the extra.
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Re: 2014 District Point Model Analysis

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Just to clarify the 2nd and 3rd bullets, because I was confused when I first read this: Engineering Inspiration is worth a total of 8 points (5+3) and Chairman's Award is worth a total of 10 points (5+5). The official document from FIRST lists those as the total number of points for the award, rather than saying it's a judged award (5 pts) + the extra.
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Re: 2014 District Point Model Analysis

The point system scoring I mentioned above was taken from the new PNW District Ranking Website:

http://district.firstwa.org/
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