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[EricLeifermann]

Originally Posted by Bill_B

I agree multi-ball auto is featured in quite a few reveals. However, who is programming an auto mode that is "leave the ball and go for the colored zone?" I mean balls have to touch a robot and very few videos have shown that. They simply start with two balls in the vicinity of their machine.

Balls do not have to touch robots.

[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann

Balls do not have to touch robots.

They do if you want the 5 mobility points.

[Abhishek R]

Originally Posted by Bill_B

I agree multi-ball auto is featured in quite a few reveals. However, who is programming an auto mode that is "leave the ball and go for the colored zone?" I mean balls have to touch a robot and very few videos have shown that. They simply start with two balls in the vicinity of their machine.

If a team is running a 2-ball autonomous mode, that likely means one robot on the alliance is not capable of scoring the ball themselves. If they can't score the ball, they will probably still get the mobility points, which the easiest way to accomplish is to just drive forward into your zone. So why not just have a corner of their bot touching the ball and then they can drive forward off to the side?

[barn34]

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann

Balls do not have to touch robots.

Actually, Eric, you may want to double check the wording of G5...



"G5



For ROBOTS starting in the white ZONE, the TEAM may preload one (1) of their ALLIANCE’s BALLS such that the BALL is touching their ROBOT.

For ROBOTS starting in their GOALIE ZONE the TEAM may decide if the BALL is: staged between the TRUSS and the ZONE LINE and not contacting an ALLIANCE partner, or removed from the FIELD for the MATCH.

If a ROBOT does not report to a MATCH, its ALLIANCE may decide if the BALL is: staged between the TRUSS and the ZONE LINE and not contacting an ALLIANCE partner, or removed from the FIELD for the MATCH.

Violation: If the situation is not corrected before the start of the MATCH, TECHNICAL FOUL per BALL improperly staged."


I've interpretted that as in order for a ball to be placed on the field in autonomous, it must be touching a robot to be considered 'loaded'. Exception, of course, is if you place that robot in the goalie zone.

That means, if you've already loaded your robot with a ball, you have to place a robot you may be 2 balling with such that it is in contact with that ball and you are not. Again, unless the robot that ball 'belongs' to is positioned in the goalie zone.

At least that how I've interpretted it. Did I interpret that wrong? If you were only referring to the goalie zone instance, then feel free to kick me when you see me in Milwaukee. lol

[EricLeifermann]

Originally Posted by barn34

Actually, Eric, you may want to double check the wording of G5...



"G5



For ROBOTS starting in the white ZONE, the TEAM may preload one (1) of their ALLIANCE’s BALLS such that the BALL is touching their ROBOT.

For ROBOTS starting in their GOALIE ZONE the TEAM may decide if the BALL is: staged between the TRUSS and the ZONE LINE and not contacting an ALLIANCE partner, or removed from the FIELD for the MATCH.

If a ROBOT does not report to a MATCH, its ALLIANCE may decide if the BALL is: staged between the TRUSS and the ZONE LINE and not contacting an ALLIANCE partner, or removed from the FIELD for the MATCH.

Violation: If the situation is not corrected before the start of the MATCH, TECHNICAL FOUL per BALL improperly staged."


I've interpretted that as in order for a ball to be placed on the field in autonomous, it must be touching a robot to be considered 'loaded'. Exception, of course, is if you place that robot in the goalie zone.

That means, if you've already loaded your robot with a ball, you have to place a robot you may be 2 balling with such that it is in contact with that ball and you are not. Again, unless the robot that ball 'belongs' to is positioned in the goalie zone.

At least that how I've interpretted it. Did I interpret that wrong?

You're correct, and I'm aware of that rule. It is the one in which I was referring to. I'm not going to just give people answers, I'm going to make them think about what I said and look into the rule book, that way they remember.

[barn34]

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann

Your correct, and I'm aware of that rule. It is the one in which I was referring to. I'm not going to just give people answers, I'm going to make them think about what I said and look into the rule book, that way they remember.

lol. well then feel free to kick me at Wisconsin then.

[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by barn34

Did I interpret that wrong? If you were only referring to the goalie zone instance, then feel free to kick me when you see me in Milwaukee. lol

Or, if he referring to telling non-broken alliances partners to sit out a match so the autonomous ball doesn't need to be touching a robot. But, I think you are right.

[Woolly]

Originally Posted by XaulZan11

Or, if he referring to telling non-broken alliances partners to sit out a match so the autonomous ball doesn't need to be touching a robot. But, I think you are right.

I doubt that would go over well with the team you're telling to sit out. Telling a team to put the ball next to their robot and then play defense is sometimes a bit hard to negotiate as is. Telling a team that that you think their potential output for that match is less than 1 autonomous high goal shot is a great way to get dirty looks from everyone on that team for the remainder of the event.

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[Tem1514 Mentor]

Originally Posted by XaulZan11

They do if you want the 5 mobility points.

Please, please point me to the rule that says I MUST load a ball for Mobility points.

[TheMadCADer]

Originally Posted by Tem1514 Mentor

Please, please point me to the rule that says I MUST load a ball for Mobility points.

You're misinterpreting what they meant when they said that. Their point was that goalies can't score Mobility points.

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[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by Woolly

I doubt that would go over well with the team you're telling to sit out. Telling a team to put the ball next to their robot and then play defense is sometimes a bit hard to negotiate as is. Telling a team that that you think their potential output for that match is less than 1 autonomous high goal shot is a great way to get dirty looks from everyone on that team for the remainder of the event.

I know. I was 100% joking.


I couldn't make the live show, but hope to watch it in the next day or so.

[Tem1514 Mentor]

Originally Posted by TheMadCADer

You're misinterpreting what they meant when they said that. Their point was that goalies can't score Mobility points.

Phew, I though there was something that I was missing and was loosing my mind. Of course snow men don't have mind anyway.

And for sure goalies can't score Mobility points.