Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

[Wayne Doenges]

It's a new season so I'm going to resurrect this thread

[mrnoble]

The neverending story....

[Richard Wallace]

Re-BOOT!

[Libby K]

Originally Posted by mrnoble

The neverending story....

That, sadly, has to be re-told every year. There are better and less irritating ways of getting safely through the pit.

On 1923 our rule is 'If I hear you pointlessly yelling ROBOT as we walk to/from the field, you're out of the pit for the weekend.' We plan on sticking to it.

[fox46]

Originally Posted by Libby K

There are better and less irritating ways of getting safely through the pit.

I would prefer this for example: http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/L...Prod/2470301.p

I hate the "R" word

[BHS_STopping]

There's nothing that shouting "ROBOT!" can do that a simple "Excuse me" can't do. Shouting is terribly indirect and it's often very hard to tell if you're the one that the robot is bearing down on. Direct communication is far better.

[Oblarg]

Can this thread finally die? Please? It is not going anywhere, it is never going to go anywhere, and it serves no purpose other than creating enmity.

If you dissolve all of the conflations between the actual use of "Robot!" as a means to let people know they're in the way (which is perfectly fine, unless you have some sort of overbearing negative reaction to the word "robot") and the plethora of unrelated rude/disruptive behaviors described over the length of the thread, there's really not even that much to discuss. There's no point for 16 pages of debate about word choice.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Oblarg

Can this thread finally die? Please? It is not going anywhere, it is never going to go anywhere, and it serves no purpose other than creating enmity.

It raises awareness.

[Oblarg]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

It raises awareness.

A thread outlining those practices which are actually rude/unnecessary/disruptive would be much better at raising awareness then a thread about something tangentially related with which a whole load of other things are being conflated.

I don't think anyone here gets all that upset if a person pulling a robot cart uses the word "robot" instead of "excuse me," all other things being equal. If they do, I'd say that's a personal problem.

[AdamHeard]

Originally Posted by Oblarg

I don't think anyone here gets all that upset if a person pulling a robot cart uses the word "robot" instead of "excuse me," all other things being equal. If they do, I'd say that's a personal problem.

Then a great deal of people in this thread have a "personal problem". Which by definition then wouldn't be a personal problem.

[Oblarg]

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

Then a great deal of people in this thread have a "personal problem". Which by definition then wouldn't be a personal problem.

How many people in this thread have explicitly objected to only that the word used was "robot", with absolutely no consideration for any other factors?

As I mentioned, you don't get 16 pages of debate over word choice (possible exception for the absurd rants I've seen about "graciously accept," I guess, but down those paths madness lies). Would a group of inattentive FIRST students pushing their robot down the aisle shouting "EXCUSE ME!" at the top of their lungs while expecting everyone else to magically leap out of the way be any substantively different?

[BigJ]

Originally Posted by Oblarg

A thread outlining those practices which are actually rude/unnecessary/disruptive would be much better at raising awareness then a thread about something tangentially related with which a whole load of other things are being conflated.

I don't think anyone here gets all that upset if a person pulling a robot cart uses the word "robot" instead of "excuse me," all other things being equal. If they do, I'd say that's a personal problem.

It's more about the yelling of ROBOT and echoing of ROBOT yells whenever someone hears it, and the fact that some safety advisers (at least as of last year) were telling students they were required to yell ROBOT.

[Oblarg]

Originally Posted by BigJ

It's more about the yelling of ROBOT and echoing of ROBOT yells whenever someone hears it, and the fact that some safety advisers (at least as of last year) were telling students they were required to yell ROBOT.

Yes, this is much closer to the actual problem, but this thread in particular does a really lousy job of making that clear and just ends up with people talking past each other and getting frustrated.

[notmattlythgoe]

Originally Posted by Oblarg

Yes, this is much closer to the actual problem, but this thread in particular does a really lousy job of making that clear and just ends up with people talking past each other and getting frustrated.

Petition to end the shouting of ROBOT

Not really sure what's unclear about that?

[Oblarg]

Originally Posted by notmattlythgoe

Not really sure what's unclear about that?

The fact that at most regionals I've been to, essentially all communication can be reasonably called "shouting" because the ambient noise is loud enough to cause hearing loss, for starters (FIRST really belies all of their "safety" preaching with this, it drives me crazy).