'Trivial' Posession allowed?

[BBray_T1296]

I think the "grandmother clause" will come into effect here.

If the refs cannot instantly tell it was a possession, it will be very difficult to convince them post-match, and therefore is not nearly the best assist attempt, for that very reason.

If I saw 2 robots cradling the ball between them as it went down the field, I would say they were both in possession, provided it was obviously different than one robot possessing, and one robot playing some sort of counter defense.

In #2, this scenario would likely be difficult to tell what you were doing, as if somebody rolled up to another robot, opened and then shut the claw holding the ball, it would seem to me like operator error or a decidedly failed or aborted attempt to actually hand the ball over. If you, say dropped the ball onto the robot, displayed lack of self control of the ball (claw obviously not in possession to the nearby ref)

In #3, no, as the second robot never had any amount of control over the ball, the first robot had nothing but total control over the ball the entire time

#4. It actually depends. Say my team has nothing but a kit bot. If another team gently bumps the ball (or drops it) onto me and proceeds to guard the ball from falling off of me while I drive down the field passively (not with a claw 90% enclosed around the robot).

Now. These are simply my personal opinions, and have no hard rules backing them, but I would like say this:

Don't try to lawyer your way into a few extra points after a match. The ref's decision is correct unless proven incorrect. It is more than likely that you will have little to no way of actually proving your case, and if the ref says "no" to your argument then you don't get the points. period. Make your intent obvious during a match and you will be rewarded with a much less stressful weekend.