Week 1 Analysis

[ToddF]

Originally Posted by rcmolloy

The fact that teams can't hold on to the ball. I was seeing this during reveal videos and even practice matches yesterday. Defense is going to be huge this year and you really have to make sure you hold on to the ball well. If not, it will launched out of your robot with one big hit.

^ This. I think part of our scouting needs to be whether a robot securely holds the ball. It will be nice to know if we're up against an opponent we can make fumble just by giving them a good hit.

[bduddy]

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl

Learning also teams feel the need to pick balls up when pushing would work better in most cases.

This, right here... Herding counts as an assist. I know teams are proud of their grippers, but in a lot of cases they're not necessary...

[Rynocorn]

Originally Posted by bduddy

This, right here... Herding counts as an assist. I know teams are proud of their grippers, but in a lot of cases they're not necessary...

I'm very happy that my team thought of this we can grab onto the ball with our intake without turning the motor so it's still on the ground and we can pass quickly.

I've been watching the palmetto stream and i have seen a bunch of goals bounce out, teams score their balls into opponents low goals, and teams repeatedly miss high goal shots for the entire match. Seems like a very frustrating game so far but I haven't been able to watch dedicatedly

[magnets]

Overall, a very poor performance in week one.

-Lack of decent prep for the majority of teams is costing ALL teams to do poorly
Most drivers don't really know what to do, ever.

-G40 seems to be a real tough rule. While I definitely understand the reasoning behind the rule, I don't think that teams

-Blue alliance gameday is awesome for viewing streams, but few streams are decent. They are of low quality, and often show useless stuff (stop filming the robot signal lights!!!)

-Scores are all over the place.

-Your alliance partners and opponents decide if you're going to win the match, not the quality/skill of your team.

-The high goal sucks. I've watched a team throw a ball, have it bounce out, pick it up, shoot, have it bounce out again, then run out of time. Unless this was an intentional challenge (which isn't at all shown in the team model of the field), FIRST needs to fix this. It shouldn't be too hard, it's just a hole in a wall. It doesn't get too much simpler than that.

[Clinton Bolinger]

Wayne,

I'm pretty sure that is their current Rank for the event.

-Clinton-

[ToddF]

Lots of teams designed their mechanisms to fit underinflated balls. I'm seeing lots of balls getting stuck in robots. (Or maybe it's the same robot multiple times.)

[BleakRNS]

How often have teams caught truss shots? Catching seems even less common than 30-point climbs at this point...

[Ginger Power]

Originally Posted by BleakRNS

How often have teams caught truss shots? Catching seems even less common than 30-point climbs at this point...

I've seen 2 catches in around 30 matches watched. Whether or not this is a true indicator of what is happening I don't know.

[Xavbro]

Originally Posted by BleakRNS

How often have teams caught truss shots? Catching seems even less common than 30-point climbs at this point...

I've seen a few teams come close. 33 caught a ball once or twice but it's not going to be easy. Getting lined up takes time which by then, the opposing alliance sees it and can easily race over and knock you out of position. 33 managed to catch one in traffic but it was really tough.

Watching Alamo, teams are getting better as the day goes but G40 is killing teams. It has decided the outcome of a lot of matches.

- I've notice a few teams trussing the autonomous balls that were missed. It was earlier in the day so it looks like it has been fixed.

- I do like being able to see the rankings next to the teams during the match. It'll be more meaningful late Friday/Saturday morning when trying to make the top 8 will heat up the competition.

Side note: 624 and 33 are the top bots so far from what I've seen in my opinion. 33's ability to pretty much shoot from wherever, whenever and 624's accurate shooting are putting them above the rest of the competition at there respective events.

[Wetzel]

Losing your ball out of bounds during a cycle is killer.

[mwmac]

Surprised to see some alliances leaving a human player area empty near the truss...long delay while field personnel walk errant ball to nearest human player..

[PVCpirate]

I've been watching Alamo and Palmetto for about a half hour. Fouls notwithstanding, here's my observations:

• Alliances that have trouble scoring Auton balls are in trouble
• Teams with a quick line-up and shot are doing the best, anyone who can't shoot in about 5 seconds gets attacked by defenders
• Not a ton of teamwork yet, alliances that get assists and truss shots consistently are winning easily
• I've seen a few exciting matches, notably a buzzer-beater shot in the high goal for the win at Palmetto (update, 1772, 3824 and 346 just scored 290 at Palmetto[!] High score so far from what I can see.)
• Truss shot to the human player is proving effective early
• Many teams can't hold on to the ball, they are not doing well

I really can't wait for elims tomorrow, I think some of the kinks will be ironed out by then and we'll be treated to some really fun matches.

[abeD]

A match at palmetto they just scored 290. Several cycles with catches. 1772 was catching and scoring and another team I forget the number was getting the inbound and throwing over the truss.

[PVCpirate]

Originally Posted by abeD

A match at palmetto they just scored 290. Several cycles with catches. 1772 was catching and scoring and another team I forget the number was getting the inbound and throwing over the truss.

that was 3824 inbounding and trussing.

[joelg236]

Originally Posted by abeD

A match at palmetto they just scored 290. Several cycles with catches. 1772 was catching and scoring and another team I forget the number was getting the inbound and throwing over the truss.

I just missed this match. Will there be VODs?