Week 1 Analysis

[Ginger Power]

Originally Posted by joelg236

I just missed this match. Will there be VODs?

I missed it as well by about 10 seconds!!! Can anybody who watched it go into detail about how they put up 290!!

[wireties]

Watching Alamo action....

- G40 is a killer
- shooting on the move is money
- all balls in auto must be made
- holding onto the ball while being hit is important
- gotta finish assisted cycles, high goal or not
- lots of teams not familiar with the rules
- smooth inbound is a key to quick cycle

[PVCpirate]

There's a goalie bot at Alamo 4219 that's causing some trouble, they're at least getting in the shooters' heads, and making it tough to rebound the ball after a miss.

[Alex Cormier]

The same as each year, train your HP's. They are a very valuable asset on the field.

[PVCpirate]

Originally Posted by Ginger Power

I missed it as well by about 10 seconds!!! Can anybody who watched it go into detail about how they put up 290!!

After auton, 3824 would inbound, turn, and fire the ball over the truss, and 1772 was waiting on the other side to get the ball and score in the high goal. They probably went through at least 6 cycles of this, and I think they had 2 CATCHES in the process. Very light defense on them. Their third robot was either defending or disabled, not sure which.

[Chris Hibner]

Score keeping has been problematic. Our last match we scored 105, but got credit for 66 (I don't know how with no 1 pt goals). We had 35 in auto and got credit for 15 and lost 20 assist points. I hope the final standings are separated by a larger margin than that.

[Ginger Power]

Originally Posted by PVCpirate

After auton, 3824 would inbound, turn, and fire the ball over the truss, and 1772 was waiting on the other side to get the ball and score in the high goal. They probably went through at least 6 cycles of this, and I think they had 2 CATCHES in the process. Very light defense on them. Their third robot was either defending or disabled, not sure which.

Thanks!

[Jack_O]

We're there any foul points in match with 290?

[Ether]

Originally Posted by PVCpirate

After auton, 3824 would inbound, turn, and fire the ball over the truss, and 1772 was waiting on the other side to get the ball and score in the high goal...

Third bot 346

[Caleb Sykes]

I just watcheed a match from Palmetto (Q51?) in which neither red nor blue scored their missed auto balls. One of the blue robots was spending lots of time trying to score those balls over the truss.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Jack_O

We're there any foul points in match with 290?

Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:31:50 +0000	SCMB	Q	45	46	290	4516	4243	1648	3824	346	1772	0	50	25	50	21	190

[Lil' Lavery]

Just watched the last few matches at Alamo. Refs missed assists in each of the past two, on pretty cut and dry plays. Each match had a three assist cycle counted for two.

[amro]

Like most people said, G40 violations are really big, but over time that will decrease when human players get more practice. IT seems like the other big thing is missing high goal points in auto and in teleop. The best thing this year may be just quick cycles and if a shot is missed, dump it in the one point goal immediately. The biggest killer is the ball being uncontrolled by a robot on the field

[Madison]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Just watched the last few matches at Alamo. Refs missed assists in each of the past two, on pretty cut and dry plays. Each match had a three assist cycle counted for two.

FIRST is consistently unable to create game rules that refs can enforce appropriately and is consistently unable to create a process and system that allows teams to remain connected to the field and operational for an entire match, so of course they'd design a game that relies heavily on each of those things.

[SkittlesCharge]

After watching Central Illinois on and off for a few hours, here is what I've seen:

Unscored autonomous balls really hurt alliances, as their opponents immediately rush in to play defense, causing the alliance to waste lots of time trying to score the balls.
Many robots are not sturdy enough, making them lose the ball and/or pieces of their bot whenever they get hit.
Truss shots are a very popular method of scoring but catching is rare. I've seen truss shots on the majority of cycles but only a few catches in all the time I've been watching.
Two robots playing defense can often shut down even the best of offensive robots.
Matches are frequently decided by technical fouls, with the most common being G12 and G40.
Matches seem to either be a huge victory for one alliance or very close until the end.