Week 1 Analysis

[Jared Russell]

Originally Posted by bduddy

Yeah, there's more defense then recent years, but is that really a bad thing?

Yes

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by Jared Russell

Yes

I like it.

[Tommy F.]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

I like it.

My appendages do not.

[Chris_Ely]

Originally Posted by 7h0m54

My appendages do not.

Neither do my eyes as a spectator.
Most of the time matches look like the goal is to run into each other while throwing balls around.

[Mr. Pockets]

Anyone have any clue what happened in Alliance 2 vs Alliance 6 semis at Centerline? It originally said that Alliance 2 had won, then there were two more matches played and Alliance 6 won each one

The webcast wasn't up for the matches. Can anyone confirm what happened?

[JohnSchneider]

To those asking about alamo, finals 1 showed a tie but after further review the refs said alliance 1 won. The head ref committed a field fault and when contested said it didn't matter. Finals 2 showed a tie real time but the refs came back after and said alliance 1 won. A huge penalty wasn't called on 118's human player.

The finals had to be replayed a few times due to field connection and functionality. A misfire caused a robot to almost take out the MC

I have no understanding of how real time scoring cannot be correct in this game. The biggest problem is a consistency on putting auto balls that miss back in play and the fact that entire assists are being wiped out when a ball leaves the field.

I haven't played this game yet but from attending a regional I'm almost not looking forward to it...

[Paul Copioli]

Originally Posted by bduddy

Are you talking about an excess of defense? I think most of that is teams not knowing how to pass the ball, or lacking any kind of strategy to counter defensive robots. Yeah, there's more defense then recent years, but is that really a bad thing?

Either way, you can't deny it makes for exciting games!

I am talking about even if your team runs "the perfect cycle", each robot is relegated to defense for 2/3 of the match.

Even the announcers are like, "team blah blah blah is not moving, something's wrong ... oh wait, they are just waiting for the ball" ... so dumb.

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by 7h0m54

My appendages do not.

I hearken from days of yore, before bumpers were required.... It's seemed to me for years that people make their appendages too fragile and to extend outside their perimeter much longer than necessary.

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by Paul Copioli

I am talking about even if your team runs "the perfect cycle", each robot is relegated to defense for 2/3 of the match.

Even the announcers are like, "team blah blah blah is not moving, something's wrong ... oh wait, they are just waiting for the ball" ... so dumb.

It seems to me that the perfect alliance would score in autonomous, get into position, and then never move.

[Bryce Paputa]

Something odd that I noticed is that oftentimes when there is very little time left after a shot, a team will get another ball, run under the truss with it, and attempt to make it in the high goal, why not go over the truss instead? It would be closer and it should be easier to do. It also gives possibilities for another high goal shot and possibly a catch. Any idea why this is?

[bduddy]

4772 just made a block in autonomous (without moving, EDIT: other than extending its blocker), possibly the first robot to do so. Definitely cost the other alliance a lot of time...

[Canon reeves]

Originally Posted by bduddy

4772 just made a block in autonomous (without moving), possibly the first robot to do so. Definitely cost the other alliance a lot of time...

How?

[bduddy]

Originally Posted by Canon reeves

How?

When I said 'without moving', I mean that they didn't drive. They just extended a blocker.

[Ginger Power]

Originally Posted by pfreivald

It seems to me that the perfect alliance would score in autonomous, get into position, and then never move.

I know what you are talking about but I just don't think it's going to happen. Unless 3 teams collaborated during the build season the odds of successfully completing a cycle like this are low. However, a variation of this cycle is doable and very effective.

[Kevin Sheridan]

Originally Posted by Jared Russell

Yes

Defense is a good thing!