New Central Illinois Regional Looking Good!

[tStano]

Originally Posted by gurellia53

For reference:


The cylinders below are inside our frame perimeter at all times. More than once, another robot's pickup mechanism entered our frame perimeter and bent these rods. The pictures are from the quarterfinals. We also received damage to our catapult, causing us to miss our next autonomous shot.

Ouch. That looks pretty darn bad. That looks at least like grounds for the question box. Damaging a robot inside the frame perimeter is a technical, even if it was consequential.

If a TEAM needs clarification on a ruling or score, one (1) pre-college student from that TEAM should address the Head Referee after the ARENA reset signal (i.e. PLAYER STATION LED strings turn green). A TEAM member signals their desire to speak with the Head Referee by standing in a Red or Blue Question Box, which are located on the floor near each end of the scoring table. Depending on timing, the Head Referee may postpone any requested discussion until the end of the subsequent MATCH.

From the blue box

Regardless of intent, a ROBOT with an element outside its FRAME PERIMETER that causes damage to another ROBOT inside of its FRAME PERIMETER will be penalized.

[gurellia53]

Originally Posted by tStano

Ouch. That looks pretty darn bad. That looks at least like grounds for the question box. Damaging a robot inside the frame perimeter is a technical, even if it was consequential.

By the time we got off the field, the final match score had already been determined and shown on the big screen.

We immediately took the robot to the question box and showed the damage. The refs said that they did not see the damage happen so they couldn't call it.

[orangemoore]

Originally Posted by gurellia53

By the time we got off the field, the final match score had already been determined and shown on the big screen.

We immediately took the robot to the question box and showed the damage. The refs said that they did not see the damage happen so they couldn't call it.

That to me is a poor response to easily visible damage to a robot. There were matches that scores were reversed on last year after they had been posted. It seems like a bad excuse to do nothing on.

I think that the teams in the Finals should be held to highest standards of penalties because they have already played 8-12 matches.

[bduddy]

Originally Posted by orangemoore

That to me is a poor response to easily visible damage to a robot. There were matches that scores were reversed on last year after they had been posted. It seems like a bad excuse to do nothing on.

I think that the teams in the Finals should be held to highest standards of penalties because they have already played 8-12 matches.

I very much disagree - how can the referees know if the damage existed before the match, or if it was accidentally caused by a robot on the same alliance? Both may be unlikely, but to overturn the results of any match, let alone a regional-deciding match, should require an extremely high standard of evidence.

While I sympathize with teams that have competed, I understand how some fouls can be missed when it seems to be a common situation that 5-6 robots are all piled in the same quadrant of the field, and the one referee there has to watch not only for any fouls, but to keep track of possessions and potential pins...