Possible Implementation of Instant Replay

[savage]

OP Thanks for your input, But I hate to say it, but this is never going to happen Not in the near future anyway. Also this has been discussed countless times. For my .02.
You would need a camera in every corner, if not more. A fixed one will not get all the angles that you will need.

Also The refs do the best job they can but they are still only human. Yes they do miss a call now and then but that is why there are at least 5 refs on the field at any given time. Very rarely do they miss calls. Also 90%of the time does a foul/ penalty change the outcome of a match. Yes I have seen it happen, but it happens maybe 1 out of 100 times.

[DampRobot]

Here's a quick suggestion, make the instant replay camera the only camera used for the webcasts. Make it a fisheye cam like they use for recording FIM matches, and have it be the ONLY cam used for web streams. This would cut production costs (by eliminating all the cameras and cameramen they currently have), and let the people watching the web stream watch the robots for the whole match instead of someone wiggling joysticks for 30 seconds at a time, as the currents stream seems to do.

The camera would be a high end USB cam connects to a PC controlled by FMS. It would automatically start recording as soon as all robots are connected, and automatically stop 10 seconds after the match ends. Videos would be available for teams to save off the PC or to upload to TBA at the end of the day.

Just saying, the OPs idea isn't a totally unreasonable proposal. It solves a few logistical problems in neat ways, and gives the teams the huge benefit of being able to challenge bad calls. Perhaps this isn't the exact way to do it, but if we continue to say its impossible, it will continue to never be a reality. This is 2014. We should be able to figure out how to automatically record matches at a robotics competition.

[themccannman]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

Here's a quick suggestion, make the instant replay camera the only camera used for the webcasts. Make it a fisheye cam like they use for recording FIM matches, and have it be the ONLY cam used for web streams. This would cut production costs (by eliminating all the cameras and cameramen they currently have), and let the people watching the web stream watch the robots for the whole match instead of someone wiggling joysticks for 30 seconds at a time, as the currents stream seems to do.

The camera would be a high end USB cam connects to a PC controlled by FMS. It would automatically start recording as soon as all robots are connected, and automatically stop 10 seconds after the match ends. Videos would be available for teams to save off the PC or to upload to TBA at the end of the day.

Just saying, the OPs idea isn't a totally unreasonable proposal. It solves a few logistical problems in neat ways, and gives the teams the huge benefit of being able to challenge bad calls. Perhaps this isn't the exact way to do it, but if we continue to say its impossible, it will continue to never be a reality. This is 2014. We should be able to figure out how to automatically record matches at a robotics competition.

The recording isn't an issue at all. As the team that ran the Inland Empire live stream I can vouch for our programmers that the technical aspect was not very difficult.

[jman4747]

Set up an acceptable view for instant replay, use it for the stream and rewind the stream.

Why is it whenever we have a problem with human error (i.e. ball inflation & 25" inner width 2x4 boxes) we need whole new systems to solve it? We don't need people doing trig for camera placement, creating cost estimates, researching video camera tech.

My head elc mentor (and I suspect most of yours could too) can hook up an R-Pi with a 1080p wide-angle camera and an Ethernet cable to another with a keyboard and a monitor to record/play back full field video in less time than it takes to pump up a ball. I could figure it out in a day probably.

Why is everything so hard (and harsh)? We can build swerves, track vision targets, and launch a 24"-26" ball 50ish feet... but we can't record a video?
Where did all these come from? http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...joh1iAyo73NSrP

Sorry, this is a little indignant however, this is actually not hard... just different.