2014 MAR Standings

[AGPapa]

Here's the current 2014 MAR standings. Let me know if you spot anything incorrect.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AizgHBYEeVnwdDJVeFBzWTduazNLV3I2Skw5dlh4a FE#gid=1

[thefro526]

Went through the doc really quickly and didn't see anything out of the ordinary.

I was really surprised to see how 'age bonus' points work out... There are some teams that have played at one event, and are ranked behind a 1st year rookie team that hasn't played at all. That'll make things interesting.

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by thefro526

I was really surprised to see how 'age bonus' points work out... There are some teams that have played at one event, and are ranked behind a 1st year rookie team that hasn't played at all. That'll make things interesting.

Saw that too. But the age bonus points are only applied once per season, correct?

[dag0620]

Originally Posted by Hallry

Saw that too. But the age bonus points are only applied once per season, correct?

Correct.

[scottandme]

Originally Posted by thefro526

Went through the doc really quickly and didn't see anything out of the ordinary.

I was really surprised to see how 'age bonus' points work out... There are some teams that have played at one event, and are ranked behind a 1st year rookie team that hasn't played at all. That'll make things interesting.

Also worth considering the 8 point bonus for winning RAS and the 5 point bonus for Rookie Inspiration. There are 5 rookie teams in MAR this season. Team 5113 is guaranteed to win RAS at Lenape, since they are the only rookie team attending. Not sure if they'll get Rookie Inspiration also. The 4 other rookie teams will divide the remaining 3 RAS and Rookie Inspiration awards (SCH, BR, CLI). No rookies attended MO.

So the rookie impact is much stronger in MAR than in other regions due to our low count.

All told, it'll be 10 points for everyone plus their share of the 52 points from rookie awards, so in effect it's more like a 20 point rookie bonus.

Team 5113 has essentially already qualified for MAR champs with their guaranteed haul of 52 points - they're a great little inbound bot and were great to work with in our match at Horsham.

[ENeyman]

Yay, we are last!

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by scottandme

Team 5113 is guaranteed to win RAS at Lenape, since they are the only rookie team attending.

But, they can't. You can only get Chairman's, EI, and RAS once per district system, and they won it already at Hatboro.

Based on my quick analysis of the 5 rookies and the events they're competing at, it seems like only 3 or 4 of the teams will be possible to win it logistically at the districts depending on who wins it where, meaning either 2 or 1 won't qualify to compete for it at Lehigh.

[nlknauss]

Originally Posted by Hallry

But, they can't. You can only get Chairman's, EI, and RAS once per district system, and they won it already at Hatboro.

Based on my quick analysis of the 5 rookies and the events they're competing at, it seems like only 3 or 4 of the teams will be possible to win it logistically at the districts depending on who wins it where, meaning either 2 or 1 won't qualify to compete for it at Lehigh.

I believe Scott is correct unless the supplemental rules state otherwise. Events with one rookie traditionally give only the RAS award out so 5113 should be lined up to win that award at Lenape...spoiler alert!

I'm glad to see 5113's success. I've been working with them since last spring and they've done a lot of work to ensure a successful rookie season.

Nate

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by nlknauss

I believe Scott is correct unless the supplemental rules state otherwise. Events with one rookie traditionally give only the RAS award out so 5113 should be lined up to win that award at Lenape...spoiler alert!

As per the new District Standard Points Ranking System, "District Teams will only be able to win FRC’s most prestigious awards – Chairman’s Award, Engineering Inspiration Award, and Rookie All Star Award – once per season at the District level. This supports the broader distribution of those awards."

[nlknauss]

Originally Posted by Hallry

As per the new District Standard Points Ranking System, "District Teams will only be able to win FRC’s most prestigious awards – Chairman’s Award, Engineering Inspiration Award, and Rookie All Star Award – once per season at the District level. This supports the broader distribution of those awards."

Thanks for the clarification!

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by AGPapa

Let me know if you spot anything incorrect.

Your rankings match what I calculated here: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...19#post1353419

[quad]

Just as a FYI for those curious,

The MAR rankings have been posted on the MAR website.

There is also a blog post outlining the number or District Championship slots, 55, and the number of MAR slots at St. Louis, 18.

The winning alliance members at the MAR CMP are guaranteed slots to the FIRST CMP, like last year. PNW and NE do not guarantee the winning alliance members FIRST CMP slots. Don't know about FiM for this year. Last year the FiM champs were awarded slots automatically.

For 2014 MAR has 5 Rookie teams, 9 2nd year teams, and 9 3rd year teams.

Team Distribution for the MAR events:

HH	MO	SCH	CLI	LS	BR	
40	38	15	14	3	0	1st event
0	0	19	19	35	37	2nd event
0	0	0	0	2	8	3rd event

In 2013 the last team to be invited to the MAR CMP, after declines, was ranked 69th with 39 ranking points and after the MAR CMP the last team invited to the FIRST CMP by ranking was ranked 12th with 182 ranking points (the 1st ranked team had 337 points).

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by quad

after the MAR CMP the last team invited to the FIRST CMP by ranking was ranked 12th with 182 ranking points (the 1st ranked team had 337 points).

But remember, more teams will qualify based on points this year from MAR Champs to World Champs. In fact, it's double the previous amount.

[scottandme]

Originally Posted by Hallry

But remember, more teams will qualify based on points this year from MAR Champs to World Champs. In fact, it's double the previous amount.

Double the 2012 amount, not the 2013 amount. Also, worth considering that we will now lose slots for outside regional qualifications. 11 and 2016 would have pulled slots last year, and 2590 and possibly 341 would have pulled slots in 2012. Based on the teams travelling in 2014, I wouldn't expect that trend to end. We'll know by week 5, with only 2234 competing week 6.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...ive_web#gid=22

2012: 12 Slots
3 Winners
2 CA
1 EI
1 RAS
5 Points

2013: 14 Slots
3 Winners
2 CA
2 EI
1 RAS
6 Points

2014: 18 Slots
3 Winners
2 CA
2 EI
1 RAS
10 Points

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by scottandme

Double the 2012 amount, not the 2013 amount.

Thanks, I forgot that our increased World Champs allotment allowed an additional team attend via points last year.