Game Manual - Team UPDATE - 2014-03-04

[Rynocorn]

Originally Posted by tanmaker

Yep, that's a G21 violation. Do it once and it's a foul. Make a habit of it, that a technical. Touch anything outside, and that's a red card and disable.

Perfect! Yeah we were mainly worrying about trying to get a ball from a human player and a defending robot ramming us causing us to be outside the field near the human player. We don't want to kill our human player

[Hallry]

Originally Posted by Jared Russell

Any hour now I am going to click on over to the home page and see a new post by Hallry linking to an FRC Blog that makes everything better.

As you wish.

[Answer42]

Originally Posted by Bob Steele

It took a little analysis but the new rule does help

In my opinion a little too much analysis. This rule could have been a lot clearer IMHO. Especially for those teams that don't visit this site regularly enough to get the detailed analysis from others.

[mwtidd]

I'm actually curious about the G38 change for two reasons.

First is that the rule in the update differs from that in the manual.

The Update:

G38

TEAM members may not pass the BALL to a TEAM member in another HUMAN PLAYER AREA (passing the BALL within an ALLIANCE STATION or HUMAN PLAYER AREA is permitted).

The Manual

G38
TEAM members may not pass the BALL to a HUMAN PLAYER in another HUMAN PLAYER AREA (passing the BALL
within an ALLIANCE STATION or HUMAN PLAYER AREA is permitted).

In a case like this, which is the rule?

Going onto the reason why I ask. It seems to me that based on this change, that a team member seems to be permitted to pass the ball to a human player within the alliance station, so long as the team member is not the coach (G34).

However under the update, I would take this one step further and say that it permits a team member to pass the ball to another team member within the alliance station.

I cannot seem to find a rule saying that a HUMAN PLAYER needs to be the one to inbound the ball.

Meaning an alliance could have up to 3 INBOUNDERS and 3 HUMAN PLAYERS if they only needed one driver for each robot.

Basically I'm wondering if a 1-2-2 Human formation is legal. 1 INBOUNDER AT PEDESTAL, 2 INBOUNDERS at either guardrail, and 2 HUMAN PLAYERS down field.